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Alas not a single mention of if these songs required a whole different set of licenses to play. The act of changing the song list can lead down to a confusing

Alas not a single mention of if these songs required a whole different set of licenses to play. The act of changing the song list can lead down to a confusing licensing set as there's at least 4 different licensing authorities, each covering a differing set of songs.

eric_the_read 8y ago
My understanding is that if you ever have considered playing music in a business, you pretty much have to get licenses for all of them. AFAIK, ASCAP/BMI/Whoever don't operate their own services, so you're always at risk, if you don't get licenses from everybody, that whatever service you use will play a verboten song and poof there go your profits for the last N quarters.
- mrhanks 8y ago
  At least with the ones above (Soundtrack Business), all that licensing seems to be included at least in US/CA. Sounds really complicated to deal with each one otherwise...
yellowcherry 8y ago
Spotify has a service for businesses that includes all the relevant license fees. https://www.soundtrackyourbrand.com/help https://www.soundtrackyourbrand.com/help
- cm2012 8y ago
  Useful link!
majos 8y ago
Confused. Do restaurants have to pay to play songs?
- gowld 8y ago
  Yes, because they are playing for a large audience, which isn't covered by the licenses that you use at home.
  - TimTheTinker 8y ago
    It’s not about whether the audience is large or small. Performance rights are about whether it’s public or private and the venue is paid or free. For private use where those present are by invitation only and haven’t paid to be there, I don’t think any further license is necessary, beyond simply owning a copy of the work to be performed. (IANAL; correct me if I’m wrong.)
    - pastage 8y ago
      If you are a group of people reading a book and discussing it in an organized manner you are supposed to pay royalties for it. (Source, I've gotten such money from Sweden)
      - TimTheTinker 8y ago
        Sounds like a good reason to stick to classics in such groups. Seriously, if I knew about such a stipulation, I'd be incentivized not to buy copyrighted books to read for a book club in the first place. I'm really glad there is a corpus of public domain works; so much good is possible (or positively incentivized) because of it. Too bad it isn't growing much (e.g. Steamboat Willie is still, still under copyright restrictions nearly 100 years later).
- toomanybeersies 8y ago
  Yes, legally restaurants have seperate licensing requirements and can't just use Spotify for their music. In reality, most small restaurants and cafes just use Spotify. Bars and larger restaurants tend to be a bit more fastidious in getting the correct rights.
  - 8y ago

eric_the_read 8y ago

My understanding is that if you ever have considered playing music in a business, you pretty much have to get licenses for all of them. AFAIK, ASCAP/BMI/Whoever don't operate their own services, so you're always at risk, if you don't get licenses from everybody, that whatever service you use will play a verboten song and poof there go your profits for the last N quarters.

mrhanks 8y ago
At least with the ones above (Soundtrack Business), all that licensing seems to be included at least in US/CA. Sounds really complicated to deal with each one otherwise...

yellowcherry 8y ago

Spotify has a service for businesses that includes all the relevant license fees. https://www.soundtrackyourbrand.com/help https://www.soundtrackyourbrand.com/help

cm2012 8y ago
Useful link!

majos 8y ago

Confused. Do restaurants have to pay to play songs?

gowld 8y ago
Yes, because they are playing for a large audience, which isn't covered by the licenses that you use at home.
- TimTheTinker 8y ago
  It’s not about whether the audience is large or small. Performance rights are about whether it’s public or private and the venue is paid or free. For private use where those present are by invitation only and haven’t paid to be there, I don’t think any further license is necessary, beyond simply owning a copy of the work to be performed. (IANAL; correct me if I’m wrong.)
  - pastage 8y ago
    If you are a group of people reading a book and discussing it in an organized manner you are supposed to pay royalties for it. (Source, I've gotten such money from Sweden)
    - TimTheTinker 8y ago
      Sounds like a good reason to stick to classics in such groups. Seriously, if I knew about such a stipulation, I'd be incentivized not to buy copyrighted books to read for a book club in the first place. I'm really glad there is a corpus of public domain works; so much good is possible (or positively incentivized) because of it. Too bad it isn't growing much (e.g. Steamboat Willie is still, still under copyright restrictions nearly 100 years later).
toomanybeersies 8y ago
Yes, legally restaurants have seperate licensing requirements and can't just use Spotify for their music. In reality, most small restaurants and cafes just use Spotify. Bars and larger restaurants tend to be a bit more fastidious in getting the correct rights.
- 8y ago