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This absolutely pisses me off too, especially when it's right outside my home because it's also noise pollution. I don't understand these people... do they go h
by tomxor 8y ago
This absolutely pisses me off too, especially when it's right outside my home because it's also noise pollution. I don't understand these people... do they go home and just leave taps running while fiddling with their phones? there is no good reason to do this unless you are in an extremely cold environment.
- jimmaswell 8y agoCharging a phone, air conditioning (especially if a dog or kids are in the car), letting people in the car listen to the radio without draining the battery, just wanting to sit in there, lots of good reasons.
- hfdgiutdryg 8y agoletting people in the car listen to the radio without draining the battery Unless you've got a booming system with several large subwoofers, you aren't going to excessively drain your battery by listening to the radio with the ignition in the accessory position. For A/C, take the kids inside. For dogs, park in shade and get an accessory window fan. On all but the hottest days (L.A., Phoenix, and similar places excepted) they'll be quite comfortable.
- nathancahill 8y agoHmm, that's just not true at all. Don't leave your pups in the car. They won't be comfortable, they'll be dead.
- jimmaswell 8y agoIf the windows are open then there's no greenhouse effect going on, so it wouldn't be any worse than if you were walking them. Air conditioning is still a lot better.
- ummonk 8y agoMost cars don’t have windshields and rear windows that open.
- ummonk 8y agoWhy am I getting downvoted for this? The windshield and rear window will continue contributing to the greenhouse effect. If there isn't enough of a breeze, this will be an issue. In still air, parked cars heat up even with the windows all the way down.
- hfdgiutdryg 8y agoIn true software engineer fashion, you have assumed that your opponent is a moron. I leave my dogs in the car all the time. They're in the shade with great ventilation. They're unstressed and content in a space they consider home. People freak out when a dog is contentedly sitting in a car on a 60F day. Don't be one of those people.
- nathancahill 8y agoI get that, and I'd leave my pups in the car in that situation too. I didn't mean to speak in absolutes. But shade moves during the day, and people underestimate how quickly cars heat up. High temps are not just a problem in LA/Phoenix. Most of the US can reach 80-90+ during the summer, and a lot of places aren't safe enough to leave the windows more than cracked.
- jumelles 8y agoPlease don't leave animals in cars!
- hfdgiutdryg 8y agoPlease don't be alarmist. I leave my dogs in my car regularly. They are happy and not stressed. I love my dogs far more than you ever will.
- bumholio 8y agoOf those listed, only the air-conditioner is a significant battery drain. However, many vehicles are such configured that in order to have any amount of power available, you need to also power up the daylight running lights, fuel pump, internal computer and other consumers that quickly add up and can indeed drain a battery in a few hours. There needs to be more awareness from the car builders about the need for an eco, long lasting ignition option that you can safely use without risking battery discharge.
- foobar1962 8y ago> Of those listed, only the air-conditioner is a significant battery drain. On almost all cars the aircon compressor is driven by the engine, not an electric motor, so the motor needs to be running to cool the air. The fan that blows the air through the vents is electric, but the air coming out will only be ambient temperature if the motor isn't running.
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- nradov 8y agoWhich vehicles are those? Every car I've ever driven has had an intermediate ignition system setting which would power up the infotainment system and 12V / USB outlets but not other accessories.
- Frye9876 8y agoEven in a cold environment it doesn't make sense to idle your car to warm it up.
- EpicEng 8y agoEver lived in a cold environment? You idle to let your heating system get up to temp. I grew up in a cold area and no way was I going to jump in my car right away in -20 degree temps.
- delecti 8y agoI have. Driving the car causes so much more heat production by the engine than idling that it barely makes a difference.
- EpicEng 8y agoThe difference is that the heat is going the moment I get in my car. Not as efficient (and, to be fair, my experience is a bit dated here [~15 years]), but I don't have to freeze my butt off for 10 mins waiting.
- kw71 8y agoThis is ridiculous, I have never had a car need ten minutes of driving to make heat, even in a Pittsburgh winter. I have had a driving license for 36 years.
- Reason077 8y agoI drove a Renault Zoe around Stockholm in the middle of winter. Great car, except for the heating... takes a long time for it's little heat pump to warm up.
- kw71 8y agoIs that an all electric car? Petrol combustion gives off a lot of heat, but if the thermostat is stuck open this works against the goal - modern vehicles will set a fault in this case because slow warm up causes more fuel to be burned and emissions to be expelled.