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> A computer is a machine of profound alienation from the actual ability to create and the ability to use A funny thing to say, given that today a lot of conte
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> A computer is a machine of profound alienation from the actual ability to create and the ability to use
A funny thing to say, given that today a lot of content requires computers to produce, even abstract art.
> Many people will die having used computers for 10 hours a day but not being able to really act with computers and create with computers
How is that different from people who voraciously read countless books, or watch countless movies, yet never produce anything at all, in whatever domain.
Not everybody wants to be a producer. Some people are perfectly happy just consuming, or partying all day.
- andybak 8y agoI've had similar disagreements with people bemoaning VR for being isolating and non-social compared to other interactive media. Nobody decries reading literature for being somehow morally inferior to watching TV in a group.
- pbhjpbhj 8y ago>Nobody decries reading literature for being somehow morally inferior to watching TV in a group. // Never heard the term "bookworm", it's a mild pejorative leveled at people who read books a lot.
- retsibsi 8y agoThis probably varies a lot by culture (and sub-culture), but 'bookworm' doesn't really have perjorative connotations for me. I know it was probably originally intended that way, and it can still be used as an insult, but it feels neutral to me.
- curuinor 8y agoHow many of these literature readers can't write? Not write well, can't write at all. How many can't take a video? Not take a good video, but take one at all. But you can use a computer without knowing how to create for it _at all_.
- 21 8y agoNot sure what your point is. Coding is significantly harder than writing or pressing two buttons on a video camera, which is also visible in salaries - basic journalist vs. basic camera operator vs. basic coder
- walshemj 8y agoWell the UK Day rate for a Camera Operator (labour only) is around £420 for TV and £600 for film - which compares quite well for the contractor rates - and you wont fall foul or IR 35. Journalists your right - there is a lot of young people who have the dream of being the next woodwood and Bernstein - and so news paper publishers take advantage.
- 21 8y ago> TV cameraman Joel Shippey: 'although a seasoned cameraman can earn between £300 and £400 a day, you'll only be earning the minimum wage for the first few years. I was doing jobs for free when I began' > "You have to be very sure you want to do it because it involves years of long hours, challenging conditions and low pay." https://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/mar/12/how-become-tv-cameraman https://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/mar/12/how-become-tv-... I doubt there are minimum wage software developers.
- walshemj 8y agoWell you don't start as an operator and also it helps to have connections unfortunately
- UncleEntity 8y agoCountless people can drive a car but have no clue how to change a tire. If they get stuck in the wilderness during a blizzard their life is in serious peril but most people are just "you really don't know how to change a tire?" And most computer usage is creating tons of valuable information to feed into the googlebrain.