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I highly doubt you'll find a 14 year old who swipes at a book... kids very quickly learn context and rules of physics. It's much harder when some screens are to

I highly doubt you'll find a 14 year old who swipes at a book... kids very quickly learn context and rules of physics. It's much harder when some screens are touch screens and some are not, however, but I see adults trying to swipe non-touch screens all the time (mall displays, ads, iMacs etc.)

eugeniub 8y ago
Meanwhile we adults are still occasionally trying to Ctrl-Z real life.
- foobarian 8y ago
  I understood that as suspend. It still works! Who wouldn't want infinite time for video games/hobbies while time was stopped.
  - kps 8y ago
    What else would it be? EOF on CP/M? I assume that's not what was intended since it is possible in real life (and the OS will do it sooner or later).
    - mclehman 8y ago
      Undo, presumably.
- kitsunesoba 8y ago
  I was constantly running into this during drawing classes in college after having spent countless hours in Photoshop in high school. It’s amazing how firmly the Cmd-Z reflex plants itself as a reaction to making a mistake! I’ve also caught myself yearning for Cmd-F when hunting for something in large chunks of printed text.
  - uiri 8y ago
    That's why traditional books (especially references and textbooks) have an index at the back.
actsasbuffoon 8y ago
I’m in my mid-thirties, and I have definitely tried to swipe my MacBook Pro screen a few times. I don’t think it’s an indication of anything troubling. Sometimes you just get lost in what you’re reading and momentarily forget what device you’re using. If anything, I’m glad teens are so absorbed by reading. It was a struggle to get the teens of my generation to read anything!
- disqard 8y ago
  A little older than you (prolly couple of years). I remember how when I was a teen and coding a lot inside the Turbo C IDE, it became second nature to press F2 frequently (to save). Around that time, while working on math homework (on paper), I'd occasionally experience brain farts, where I would think of pressing (not reach for) the F2 key. FWIW, I have decent handwriting today, and even exchange correspondence with some friends using pen-and-paper. I do agree that touchscreen usage should be restricted for toddlers.
  - kqr 8y ago
    I have, on more than one occasion, reached down and wiggled my pencil in order to avoid getting a screensaver on the sheet of paper I was working with a couple of minutes ago.
    - jakecopp 8y ago
      Or when handwriting on paper and feeling incomplete without Vim keybindings...
jpindar 8y ago
Try being an engineer who works with oscilloscopes and such. Some of them have touch screens with the buttons along the edges of the screen, and some have softkeys so the GUI looks exactly the same, but you press the buttons next to the screen.
- pbhjpbhj 8y ago
  I get this with fuel pumps, the screen isn't a touchscreen (in a brand new device in 2017) the "buttons" are just some subtle screen printing on a static panel (capacitive buttons I think), no affordance at all. So the on-screen text says "touch here" or similar. Took me a while to realise it meant "press inside the screen-printed rectangle in the panel below the screen" ...
culot 8y ago
I've recently moved from reading mostly actual books to using e-books. Now when reading physical books I sometimes find myself trying to pinch zoom or select text with my finger. I am 40 years old.
carlmr 8y ago
I think that's mostly a function of many touch screens not being obvious about being touch screens, and some non-touch screens having interfaces that look like touch. We have some older machines for getting train tickets and some newer ones. They probably didn't want to scare anybody off, so the interface still looks almost the same. It used to be buttons next to the screen, now it's a touch screen. Of course you see people trying to touch the old ones. There's no signifier on the new ones (except the lack of buttons) that shows that they're different, so without a bit of thinking you don't know which affordances there are.

eugeniub 8y ago

Meanwhile we adults are still occasionally trying to Ctrl-Z real life.

foobarian 8y ago
I understood that as suspend. It still works! Who wouldn't want infinite time for video games/hobbies while time was stopped.
- kps 8y ago
  What else would it be? EOF on CP/M? I assume that's not what was intended since it is possible in real life (and the OS will do it sooner or later).
  - mclehman 8y ago
    Undo, presumably.
kitsunesoba 8y ago
I was constantly running into this during drawing classes in college after having spent countless hours in Photoshop in high school. It’s amazing how firmly the Cmd-Z reflex plants itself as a reaction to making a mistake! I’ve also caught myself yearning for Cmd-F when hunting for something in large chunks of printed text.
- uiri 8y ago
  That's why traditional books (especially references and textbooks) have an index at the back.

actsasbuffoon 8y ago

I’m in my mid-thirties, and I have definitely tried to swipe my MacBook Pro screen a few times. I don’t think it’s an indication of anything troubling. Sometimes you just get lost in what you’re reading and momentarily forget what device you’re using. If anything, I’m glad teens are so absorbed by reading. It was a struggle to get the teens of my generation to read anything!

disqard 8y ago
A little older than you (prolly couple of years). I remember how when I was a teen and coding a lot inside the Turbo C IDE, it became second nature to press F2 frequently (to save). Around that time, while working on math homework (on paper), I'd occasionally experience brain farts, where I would think of pressing (not reach for) the F2 key. FWIW, I have decent handwriting today, and even exchange correspondence with some friends using pen-and-paper. I do agree that touchscreen usage should be restricted for toddlers.
- kqr 8y ago
  I have, on more than one occasion, reached down and wiggled my pencil in order to avoid getting a screensaver on the sheet of paper I was working with a couple of minutes ago.
  - jakecopp 8y ago
    Or when handwriting on paper and feeling incomplete without Vim keybindings...

jpindar 8y ago

Try being an engineer who works with oscilloscopes and such. Some of them have touch screens with the buttons along the edges of the screen, and some have softkeys so the GUI looks exactly the same, but you press the buttons next to the screen.

pbhjpbhj 8y ago
I get this with fuel pumps, the screen isn't a touchscreen (in a brand new device in 2017) the "buttons" are just some subtle screen printing on a static panel (capacitive buttons I think), no affordance at all. So the on-screen text says "touch here" or similar. Took me a while to realise it meant "press inside the screen-printed rectangle in the panel below the screen" ...

culot 8y ago

I've recently moved from reading mostly actual books to using e-books. Now when reading physical books I sometimes find myself trying to pinch zoom or select text with my finger. I am 40 years old.

carlmr 8y ago

I think that's mostly a function of many touch screens not being obvious about being touch screens, and some non-touch screens having interfaces that look like touch. We have some older machines for getting train tickets and some newer ones. They probably didn't want to scare anybody off, so the interface still looks almost the same. It used to be buttons next to the screen, now it's a touch screen. Of course you see people trying to touch the old ones. There's no signifier on the new ones (except the lack of buttons) that shows that they're different, so without a bit of thinking you don't know which affordances there are.