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I sleep 10 to 11h per night. I may trim that to 6h one day but no more than once per month and if there is an absolute emergency - but then I know my productivi
by 1996 8y ago
I sleep 10 to 11h per night. I may trim that to 6h one day but no more than once per month and if there is an absolute emergency - but then I know my productivity will be killed for at least 2 days.
OTOH, my inspiration will be higher: I will have more creative ideas on how to combine stuff, but I will be too tired to do any of that. I will just take notes.
With adequate sleep, I do not feel happier or sadder than anyone else. I feel more productive however. Sunday I had never done any python because I preferred perl, but for some specific task there was no option but a python library (well, it was also possible in another language I don't like either)
So on Monday, I learned python, then asynchronous execution with asyncio, then parallelizing with joblib. Tuesday, I coded.
Today I have a python3 daemon with error handling and other niceties ready to be deployed to test. It seems robust enough to require minimal oversight by systemd.
In any case, it will be deployed on all POPs and in production on Friday - even if I must have a bad night. But that means I will not do much next day. But that means I will have other creative ideas!
- kradeelav 8y agoMy schedule's similar to yours - designer echoing a need for a minimum of 9 hours, preferably 10, especially for any serious creative work. (Personally I also wonder if there's a link there, about needing increased hours for flexible creative thinking?) (Work wise, I currently balance 2 very demanding start-up-y jobs, and learned the hard way that even 8 hours doesn't cut the sheer amount of energy that's needed to handle fires that come from both of those places. Cutting out every inch of social or leisure life before sleep ironically gives me my best weeks ... and I know as an introvert that's probably easier for me than some, but good lord. Sleep's one of those things I don't compromise on anymore.)
- 1996 8y agoI need increased hours for thinking, but for some reasons my creativity peaks on the rare days I am sleep deprived!! It is weird, as I do not compromise on sleep either! I wonder if others feel their creativity improved on sleep deprived days? I have never read anything about that.
- andai 8y agoIntentional sleep deprivation is being investigated as a cure for depression, and is a known tripper for mania and hypomania (which are associated with increased creativity).
- azeirah 8y agoSleep deprivation is linked to an increase in dopamine. I know this because I researched why I was able to concentrate better on nights with poor sleep compared to nights with great sleep. Oddly enough, for people with ADHD, a poor sleeping schedule might actually help (in the short term) with concentration issues!
- kennxfl 8y agoThis phenomenon is usually followed by a deep slump in productivity after that dopamine rush wears off.
- azeirah 8y agoOh absolutely, a day of poor sleep takes two days to recover from in my personal experience ;(
- jeffwass 8y agoThis! I found in university, strangely through sheer accident, (during the first two years of my PhD program in physics) that I performed best on my final exams and written qualifiers with three hours of sleep. I would sleep 3 hours after late-night study, drink a lot of coffee, and then be able to hyper-focus like a felon on a three-hour-long exam.
- andai 8y agoHow was the recovery?
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- king_nothing 8y agoSleep apnea? Under age 16?
- projectramo 8y agoDo you think your creativity improves on sleep deprived days, or do you think your system for assessing creativity is poor on those days? I feel more creative when I have a lot of sleep. When I am sleep deprived, I produce many ideas of poor quality.
- 1996 8y agoGreat point! I just don't know. Maybe when I'm tired the ideas are of poor quality in average, but there are so many of them than a few gems are hiding. So I take notes and reevaluate later.
- 0172435968 8y ago>I sleep 10 to 11h per night. Yeah that's called over-sleeping sir. It may be indicative of a health issue you should get checked out. You might not want to be so quick to stake claim to autonomous functions. It's not like you're willing yourself to sleep longer; your body just isn't functioning normally.
- walljm 8y agosleep durations follow a normal distribution in the populace. 8hrs only happens to be the average, but certainly not true for every one. sleep start times and sleep wake times also follow a normal distribution. don't assume.
- 0172435968 8y agoOkay but this guy is saying that he purposely sleeps 11 hours a day so that he can be more creative and cognitively enhanced and I'm the one being questioned for sources lol.
- 1996 8y agoNo, not more creative. In fact I stated the opposite and was hoping to find the reason why. But cognitively enhanced and more productive, hell yeah. I know my track record. I have little doubt about that.
- mindB 8y agoYou have evidence for that claim? No study I've seen seems to suggest there's any problem with sleeping more up to something like 12 hrs/night I think. National Sleep Foundation recommends 7-9 hours for adults, and I think I've seen studies suggesting that's on the low side. When you also account for natural variations within a population, a need for 10 hours of sleep doesn't seem ridiculous.
- totony 8y agoIIRC there are negative effects of oversleeping; some mininal health issues, but cognition is the same as a 8-9hour sleep I read a few studies when i started bodybuilding and that seemed to be the consensus Also undersleep affects cognition to a signifiant degree, iirc it was 40% diminution day one, 60% day 2 on memory tasks (and you have the same health issues as oversleep, perhaps to a higher degree)
- tlos 8y agoThat sounds like a nice sleep schedule. The main reason I don't follow something similar, is that I am fairly sure consistently sleeping longer than 9 hours per night increases the risk for serious health problems. I'd provide sources, but I'm on my phone
- rhizome 8y agoThat would certainly be news.
- OJFord 8y agoIt is; then the following day the opposite is news. (Just like the affect of dark chocolate/red wine on cancer risk.)
- theonemind 8y agoI have heard of that as a correlation without proven causation. People with health problems might need more sleep perhaps.
- jimmy1 8y agoI believe it was a study done on workers in Japan, they found the sweet spot was 7 hours. People who slept 8-9 were at higher risk for health issues.than those who slept less.
- doodhwala 8y agoCould you provide a link? What if the people who slept less happened to be from the working class who lead a more active life? And the ones who slept 8-9 were those of an older age group who might not be taking care of their lifestyle.
- jpmoyn 8y agoRegardless, just as he said above: a correlation doesn't necessarily indicate a causation.
- castlecrasher2 8y agoThanks for the details. What does your sleep schedule look like (bedtime, wake time)? Do you have any sleep ritual (no phones two hours before bed), alarms, or anything that help you sleep longer?
- megaman22 8y agoI'm jealous. 4-6 hours of sleep is a good night for me, punctuated at least once or twice a week with days I never actually get to sleep; I just sort of lay there in bed from midnight until the sun comes up again, maybe drifting to a weird loopy half-conscious state for brief periods. The only things that can bring my sleep schedule in line with "normal" amounts is if I do hard physical labor for 8-12 hours during the day, have sex, or drink about two beers and read for a half hour before bed. Basically this has persisted my entire life - growing up I'd read half a dozen books a week at night when I was supposed to be in bed and couldn't fall asleep. On those nights when sleep just isn't going to come, I've given up on trying; I'll just go find something to do. All-night programming is a pretty good fit, although I've also spent entire nights painting and putting down flooring, or tinkering in my shop.
- sbinthree 8y agoI had a nice solid 9h each night until having a child. I find I am actually more creative (uninhibited) when I get less sleep. My brain is firing too hard on perfectionism when I get a good sleep, where I can be a lot more creative and free flowing when I am sleep deprived. I don't implement or debug well in that state though, so my cycle tends to involve writing the code and debugging on better sleep nights and having my ideas and catching up on admin if I have a bad sleep.
- devmunchies 8y agomore creative but also more outgoing i've found
- sbinthree 8y agoThat too, which follows the disinhibition thing.
- anyfoo 8y agoAs someone who also favors long (even very long) sleep, but is planning to have a child, may I ask how old your child is, whether things have already gotten better sleepwise, or whether you think it will? We're only planning for one, and my impression so far suggests that it's the second child where sleep and free time get lost more permanently, and that with one child the majority of the sacrifices are only temporary (and getting better as the child gets older), but it's always good to hear some experiences.
- Dramatize 8y agoThe first 3 months are basically a write-off. After that, it gets better every month (with the occasional sleep regressions). Everything is back to normal now our kid is 2.5yrs
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- k__ 8y agoSame here. I sleep about 9-10 hours, and I'm really more productive than when I had to be in office at 9 every morning (I can't sleep before 2)
- senatorobama 8y agoAre you a teenager?
- phs318u 8y agoHaha. That was exactly my thought too :D It seems the average age of respondents is somewhere in the early 20s whereas I’m more than double that. If I get 6 hours straight through without needing to get up to pee then I’m doing well. 7 hours? Brilliant!
- Double_a_92 8y agoHow does that work if you work full-time? You come home at 6pm, enjoy your 1-2 hours of free time (including eating, showering, other housework), go to sleep, and wake up at 6am again...