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But Apple does pre-install iTunes/Apple Music, and make money when users use the default music app rather than downloading alternatives. You gotta pay for the O
by neil_s 8y ago
But Apple does pre-install iTunes/Apple Music, and make money when users use the default music app rather than downloading alternatives. You gotta pay for the OS somehow, but people aren't willing to pay for OSes. So instead, Apple makes money through the bundled hardware (to use iOS, you must buy an iPhone) and Google through the bundled software (if you want to use some Google apps like the Play Store, you must also use other Google apps like Chrome and Search).
- jpetso 8y ago"But I can't make this work unless I squash the competition by abusing my monopoly" is not a good argument for allowing it to happen, even if it were true here. The alternative is not to have no operating system, but to have a healthy market of other, possibly smaller, likely more operating systems instead.
- mattigames 8y agoIn real life more operating systems means crappier software because now developers need to create versions for each one in order to be profitable, and not the "vast array on awesome options" open source enthusiasts would like to imagine.
- gowld 8y agoIt's a constant tension. In the real world single party government is more efficient than multiparty democracy. But most of the world hasn't clamored for single party rule unless it's their personalo preferred party
- MBCook 8y agoBut Apple pre-installs it on Apple’s phones. Apple can do whatever they want on Apple phones. Google is forcing installations on Samsung phones, LG phones, etc through their contract. It is entirely possible what Apple is doing would be illegal IF they licensed/sold the OS to other OEMs.
- mattigames 8y agoYeah, what Google is learning here is that you should never license your OS/sell to other manufacturers and never make it open-source and just go the Apple route instead, create the device yourself and make the OS completely proprietary and closed.
- VikingCoder 8y agoExactly. This is so back-asswards.
- MBCook 8y agoYou can be open. You just can’t use contracts to extend your monopoly to other areas. This is not an open/closed dichotomy. This is a free/controlled market issue.
- VikingCoder 8y agoI literally don't understand. If Google manufactured all Android phones, and Android were closed source, and Android came pre-installed with the Play Store, Search, and Chrome, I think it wouldn't be a problem, right? That turns this into an open/closed dichotomy.
- wetpaws 8y agoIf Android was close there would not be any monopoly, I think this is the idea.
- VikingCoder 8y agoThat idea is completely false. It's plausible that Android would have nearly as many users. Google, for instance, could have all of the current manufacturers agree to OEM their Android devices. Possibly with co-branding.
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