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Somebody wake me up when we move beyond reimplementing Java applets and Flash once more. We had nice batteries-included VMs in the browser, and we turned our b

Somebody wake me up when we move beyond reimplementing Java applets and Flash once more. We had nice batteries-included VMs in the browser, and we turned our backs on them and went back to square one. Again, and again, and again. So we could bang rocks together with javascript. Almost makes me wish VBScript IE had won. We might be writing browser apps in .NET now...

kodablah 8y ago
One might be seen as sleeping back then too if they considered proprietary, complicated, insecure behemoths with large, sometimes shitty standard libraries and forced high-level constructs as "nice batteries-included VMs".
- crooked-v 8y ago
  > sometimes shitty I still have to do .stream() and .toList() (or .collect(Collectors.toList())) back and forth in Java all the time just to get reliable access to map/filter lambdas while still having a valid return value.
  - megaman22 8y ago
    Java's shittiness is a problem, but for the mid 2000s, it wasn't extra shitty in comparison. That long stagnation after 1.6 really hurt.
kibibu 8y ago
Flash's demise is 100% Adobe's fault. https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=adobe+flash https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=adobe+flash
- andyonthewings 8y ago
  Yeah, there are 1098 Flash related CVEs, but Google Chrome itself also has 1608 CVEs https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=google+chrome https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=google+chro... Better stop using Chrome now.
  - deleted 8y ago
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  - imtringued 8y ago
    Are those CVEs still active or has google/adobe fixed them already?
    - kibibu 8y ago
      They generally only get published in any detail once they've been fixed. Chrome seem to have a bunch of 2018 vulnerabilities that aren't listed here though...
  - sanxiyn 8y ago
    Yes, the fact that Google Chrome is written in C++ is nothing short of total disaster. It is bad for humanity. Just count all those "use after free" vulnerabilities.
    - GenericsMotors 8y ago
      Yes, the fact that the Linux kernel is written in C is nothing short of total disaster. It is bad for humanity. Just count all those "use after free" vulnerabilities.
    - rthugh02 8y ago
      Awww Baby can’t handle the fact that everything isn’t written in JavaScript

kodablah 8y ago

One might be seen as sleeping back then too if they considered proprietary, complicated, insecure behemoths with large, sometimes shitty standard libraries and forced high-level constructs as "nice batteries-included VMs".

crooked-v 8y ago
> sometimes shitty I still have to do .stream() and .toList() (or .collect(Collectors.toList())) back and forth in Java all the time just to get reliable access to map/filter lambdas while still having a valid return value.
- megaman22 8y ago
  Java's shittiness is a problem, but for the mid 2000s, it wasn't extra shitty in comparison. That long stagnation after 1.6 really hurt.

kibibu 8y ago

Flash's demise is 100% Adobe's fault. https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=adobe+flash https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=adobe+flash

andyonthewings 8y ago
Yeah, there are 1098 Flash related CVEs, but Google Chrome itself also has 1608 CVEs https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=google+chrome https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=google+chro... Better stop using Chrome now.
- deleted 8y ago
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- imtringued 8y ago
  Are those CVEs still active or has google/adobe fixed them already?
  - kibibu 8y ago
    They generally only get published in any detail once they've been fixed. Chrome seem to have a bunch of 2018 vulnerabilities that aren't listed here though...
- sanxiyn 8y ago
  Yes, the fact that Google Chrome is written in C++ is nothing short of total disaster. It is bad for humanity. Just count all those "use after free" vulnerabilities.
  - GenericsMotors 8y ago
    Yes, the fact that the Linux kernel is written in C is nothing short of total disaster. It is bad for humanity. Just count all those "use after free" vulnerabilities.
  - rthugh02 8y ago
    Awww Baby can’t handle the fact that everything isn’t written in JavaScript