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Bizarre Glasses Promise to Cure Motion Sickness
- basicplus2 8y agothats a new record for me.. according to ghostery There were 19 trackers on a site referred by HN submission..
- ipunchghosts 8y agoGinger never works for me.
- madengr 8y agoSame here. I fell asleep on a boat and woke up vomiting. Can’t read in any vehicle or watch a video. Forget about playing FPS games too, or a VR headset. Though airplane turbulence is fine if I sit back with my eyes closed. There is some wristband that administers light electrical shocks, but maybe it is hogwash. https://www.reliefband.com https://www.reliefband.com
- Sir_Cmpwn 8y agoGiven the simplicity of the mechanism described, I wonder if you could make something similar yourself and skip the hefty price tag.
- gregschlom 8y agoYes that definitely looks like a fun little weekend project.
- madengr 8y agoProbably glue some transparent tubing (i.e. fish tank tubing) to some safety glasses.
- lostlogin 8y agoThose beer google straws might do it, though you might get all caught up in the anti-straw hysteria and have to carry a doctors letter.
- giarc 8y agohttps://www.amazon.com/Westminster-PT7327-Silly-Straws-0084/dp/B001JP9I5I/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1531272656&sr=8-2&keywords=straw+glasses https://www.amazon.com/Westminster-PT7327-Silly-Straws-0084/... Fill with coloured water and seal the ends!
- krzat 8y agoLooks like some patent got violated.
- karaokeyoga 8y agoand they'll probably look better
- mchahn 8y agoAt least this will work better than the copper bracelets tons of people wear on cruises. I couldn't convince my daughters they were b.s. But maybe I shouldn't interfere with the placebo effect. Speaking of placebos, I wonder how these glasses compare to placebos.
- giarc 8y agoI'm all about evidence based medicine but as a father with a 3 year old that couldn't go in the car for longer than 10 minutes without throwing up everywhere, I was willing to try anything. We tried the pressure point bracelets, the anti-static strips, ginger drinks, everything. We moved her seat forward facing and sat her in the middle of the vehicle so she had a (somewhat) unobstructed view of the horizon. For a while, we even removed the headrest on the passenger seat and the passenger sat in the back. We started to give her regular mints and it seemed to work. She might have grown out of it, the mints might have worked... who knows, but when it affects your everyday routines, you'll do anything.
- Bromskloss 8y ago> She might have grown out of it, the mints might have worked... who knows Well, has she tried going without the mints to see what happens?
- giarc 8y agoYa on occasion we'll run out and she'll go without. Without all things being equal (trip distance etc) it's hard to say really. If you have kids, you'll also know that they learn very quickly that if she says "I'm feeling sick" that she gets a mint, regardless if she is actually feeling sick. My kids are Pavlov 2.0 basically, or maybe it's me that is the dog!
- drfuchs 8y agoCopper bracelets for sea-sickness? When I was a kid, the scam was that they cured arthritis.
- pgreenwood 8y agoA similar idea appeared over 20 years ago as joke. More specifically as a Chindogu, the comical Japanese artform of creating almost but not quite useful inventions to solve everyday problems. http://www.asiaone.com/static/multimedia/gallery/120706_japinventions/pic38.html http://www.asiaone.com/static/multimedia/gallery/120706_japi...
- boobsbr 8y agoI remember seeing a few clips about Chindogu as a child: the ones I recall most are the motorized fork for spaghetti (just causes a mess because you can't turn it off), and the solar-powered flashlight (of course, without any kind of rechargeable batteries).
- RugnirViking 8y agoTrying to rotate your head at the right speed to snatch the spaghetti off a spinning fork sounds like a fun challenge
- klondike_ 8y agoThe price is pretty absurd. I was expecting this to be in the range of $15, not $115. You could buy several years worth of dramamine for that price and won't look goofy at the same time
- kalleboo 8y agoGive it a month or two and hopefully you'll find clones on aliexpress for $5
- joshe 8y agoEven at $100 these would be very worth it to me. Can't read in cars, and can't ride in ocean boats in any kind of swell. Twisty mountain roads as a passenger are bad. I even get a little nauseous on city busses. Barfing doesn't look cool, so the dork factor is an easy price to pay. The concept makes sense, unlike copper/magnet bracelets. Dramamine doesn't help me. The "Relief Band" that shocks the wrist does help with stomach nausea, but not the head wooziness (https://www.reliefband.com/ https://www.reliefband.com/). Also no food, ginger, or small amounts of carbs doesn't help. Looking at the horizon helps a little. Looks like they are on preorder, shipping in December 2018: https://www.boardingglasses.com/ https://www.boardingglasses.com/ Excited to see real reviews.
- mkingston 8y agoI get pretty bad motion sickness. Which is not wonderful when diving. Hyoscine works for me. The worst I've felt when I've had hyoscine has been mild nausea, even in awful conditions. I use the behind-ear patches, sold as transderm scopolamine (IIRC). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoscine https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoscine
- hcrisp 8y agoScopolamine, as in the truth serum? Do you notice any increased tendency to blab secrets when taking it? It would be amusing to travel with you.
- jdhawk 8y agoMy SO takes it when we're on boats, and she definitely feels - different. I haven't noticed her blabbing secrets, but I'll ask some better questions next time. :)
- wffurr 8y agoHa ha. The dose isn't high enough for that. The main side effects are wicked dry mouth and drowsiness. The drowsiness can be a problem if you need to operate heavy machinery, like docking an 18-ton sailboat, but still better than being sick.
- ramses0 8y agoPlease somebody with a VR rig try simulating this. Previously there were reports that an "artificial nose" in VR setups reduced motion sickness [sources needed...], perhaps having an artificial horizon-ish-thing (Han Solo's lucky dice?) bobbing around in periphery would have the same effect? It seems like this would have a transferrable benefit to a similar problem.
- ralfd 8y agoBobbing dices won't work. Think about it: VR sickness comes from the mismatch of your body _not_ moving, while the visuals show you moving around. Car sickness comes from your body moving (detected by your inner ear), but if you are not looking out of the window your visuals (reading a book, looking at the phone) show you stationary.
- TipVFL 8y agoYou can set the boundaries of your VR space to be really small, so you're always activating the boundary grid. This would give you a frame of reference for the real world, and probably reduce your motion sickness. There are actually a bunch of VR games that have comfort options which basically put a static cage around you. Also, similarly, cockpit games are a popular way to allow free movement with reduced motion sickness.
- CamelCaseName 8y agoAt $180 CAD, these are too expensive to preorder for my friend without much in the way of reviews. Does anyone know where I can look for unbiased reviews for this 12-16 months down the line?
- shostack 8y agoIf anyone wants to buy me a pair, I'm happy to be a guinea pig with Mirror's Edge. Currently my record is puking within 5 minutes of playing. Skyrim is a close second and a game I'd dearly love to find a motion sickness cure for even with fov cranked up.
- sliken 8y agoUmm, these won't help unless the motion making you sick is actually, er, motion.
- RugnirViking 8y agoHow do you propose to wear and also see these glasses inside of a VR headset edit: wait hang on if these really are effective then having a virtual horizon 'HUD' in a VR game might alleviate sickness? someone get on that
- rootusrootus 8y agoI do get motion sickness in cars in the traditional way, so I am willing to give these a try, but I would like a solution (other than dramamine, which works wonderfully but makes me drowsy) to motion sickness caused without any motion at all. Such as playing a 3D game.
- EvangelicalPig 8y agoI was born with optic nerve hypoplasia and nystagmus, and despite also having a condition similar to photosensitive epilepsy start abruptly 7 years ago I've never been motion sick. I can read my laptop, a tablet, or a book on a rocking sailboat and never get any hint of being motion sick. It's fascinating.
- BoppreH 8y agoHow about using your smartphone's gyroscope to show the artifical horizon on the screen itself? For example using https://richtr.github.io/Artificial-Horizon/ https://richtr.github.io/Artificial-Horizon/ as background for text. If somebody that experiences motion sickness wants to test it, I can help coding a prototype.
- folli 8y agoCould be a fun project, but I assume this would make motion sickness even worse due to delay and jitter in the smartphone's gyroscope.
- Bromskloss 8y agoThe phone aims to show the real horizon, not the changes in perceived gravity due to a swaying vehicle. I wonder if the difference is important. (A special-purpose app might behave differently, though.)
- LanceH 8y agoThat's just it, the real horizon will appear to move even though it's the vehicle moving. People tend not to get seasick/motion sick when they can see the outside apparently swaying because that coincides to the bumps they feel. It's when they are entirely inside or focused on on something that isn't moving relative to themselves that there is a difference between feel and vision. While I don't get seasick at all, I'll add this in so that someone might try it. I noticed that on a rocking boat people stand two different ways. Most people will move their feet apart and assume a rigid stance so their head is always up relative to the boat. Others will keep both feet together and stay upright relative to gravity, seemingly tilting back and forth in rhythm with the ship. I suspect the second might help with motion sickness since you would see the boat move like you feel that it should. It always struck me as funny to have some of both types in the same group having a conversation.
- Bromskloss 8y agoHmm, I thought the problem was that the acceleration of the car (for example sideways acceleration when going through a bend) was perceived as a sideways component of gravity – as the principle of general relativity tells us, they are the same thing – without there being a corresponding visual input, even when looking outside. In contrast to something that replicates the actual horizon, the blue liquid in these glasses would feel and adapt to the same sideways acceleration as your body feels, so I thought that was the point.
- jtwaleson 8y agoThis could be huge, especially for self-driving cars where people will want to do something useful while driving!
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- Bromskloss 8y agoSummary of how it works: > The Seetroën glasses have four liquid-filled rings [which you look through] that, thanks to gravity, simulate the angle and movements of the horizon so that the motions of the blue-dyed liquids seen by the wearer’s eyes match what their inner ear is detecting.
- marsrover 8y agoWonder if these will help with noise canceling headphones. I get bad motion sickness from them but really like the quietness they provide.
- matt_the_bass 8y agoI’d recommend the patch for boating related sea sickness. It lasts 3 days. Most people get the “sea legs” within 3 days, so you don’t need medicine after it wears off. It works by essentially disconnecting your brain from your inner ear. I get dizzy for about 10 minutes after putting it on. And for another 10 minutes after taking it off (if only using it for a day trip). Otherwise, no side effects.
- sametmax 8y agoAt first I was wondering if we could apply that to VR which got a motion sickness problem. But in VR, the problem is the opposite: the screen move, but not your body.
- m-p-3 8y agoI fortunately do not suffer from motion sickness anymore, but I had a lot of issues with that when I was younger in the car. I kinda hope they work, just in case my 6 months old son has the same problem later on and for everyone who suffers from the same issue.
- jlg23 8y agoA predecessor was patented in the mid-90s: https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsicht?docId=DE69620873T2 https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/pat/PatSchrifteneinsic...
- akavel 8y agoCurious: how could you pull out the link just now? Did you have it bookmarked somewhere for long time? Or did you see it somewhere recently?
- mwexler 8y agoEven after reading the article, and seeing the video, I kept waiting for someone to say "April Fools! We are just a little late".
- remote_phone 8y agoDoes this work for sea sickness as well? It would be awesome if so because I’m so scared to take a boat after a particularly bad and embarassing boat trip where I suddenly puked from it.
- slantyyz 8y agoI wonder if these can be worn over prescription or reading glasses, as they seem to be close fitting. They wouldn't be very helpful for people who can't see anything while wearing them.
- nkkollaw 8y agoWhy does the author have this horrible tone throughout the whole article? He talks like the glasses are joke and focuses on the fact that--God forbid--they don't have a good design according to him, but if they work they're a fantastic product! My girlfriend cannot read more than a couple of sentences before getting sick while I'm driving, and I would care many times less about the glasses' look or the cost than her not felling sick. Journalism is really going downhill.
- ectospheno 8y agoNot everyone experiences motion sickness. It can be difficult for those of us who don't to properly empathize with those who do. For someone who doesn't experience motion sickness or only experiences it in extreme situations then the products appearance is a big negative.
- nkkollaw 8y agoAre you being serious? A cast looks pretty ridiculous, but if your arm is broken you wear it. I don't experience motion sickness, but if my girlfriend wore those I wouldn't start making fun of her because even though she's not sick anymore she looks weird!
- pavel_lishin 8y ago> These Bizarre Glasses Promise to Cure Your Motion Sickness—But At What Cost Further down in the article: > for about $115
- jsiepkes 8y agoI think The "cost" they imply in the title is that you have to wear glasses which look kind of ridiculous.
- beaugunderson 8y agoLooks like the next shipment for Citroen's version is September, if you don't want to wait for December for the Boarding Glasses version (I'm not sure how they differ): https://lifestyle.citroen.com/en/shop/_/pr4619/lunettes-seetroen-inspired-by-you https://lifestyle.citroen.com/en/shop/_/pr4619/lunettes-seet...