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What examples are you thinking of with “Everyone slowly goes back to the old technology?”

by jl6 8y ago

irrational 8y ago
Not OP, but recently a group at my company abandoned MongoDB and went back to a relational database after going through the exact scenario outlined by the OP (actually, the OP's comment so closely aligned with what happened that I actually wonder if he/she is actually a developer with that team at my company ;-)
- 52-6F-62 8y ago
  Interesting. I'm currently working MongoDB into a couple of projects I have going at work (they're not really outward facing except for potentially one generated view). For these projects it seemed to make a ton of sense given the rest of the stack, the nature of the projects, the deadlines I'm facing, and I've really loved working with it so far. Why did you end up moving off of it?
  - Deadron 8y ago
    The simple fact is mongoDB fails to have sufficient durability guarantees for business data when compared to a traditional RDBMS. That is one of the reasons why its so fast in comparison. A power loss event during data writes can and will lead to data loss. https://www.mongodb.com/blog/post/what-about-durability https://www.mongodb.com/blog/post/what-about-durability
    - 52-6F-62 8y ago
      Sounds like a "right tool for the job" situation. I thankfully don't have to worry about power loss (large company, teams dedicated to critical systems infrastructure in a big way), and a cron job can handle any archival concerns in the projects I'm running here. It does sound like they've improved much since 2011. Anyway thanks for the insight
      - thawkins 8y ago
        MongoDB 4.x also brings transactions to the table, which further reduces the vulnerability to inconsistent data. Data loss is far less of a problem than inconsistency due to partially completed operations and data damage.
mlaretallack 8y ago
The first that comes to mind is mainframe. Just the only name for cloud computing.
- jjeaff 8y ago
  Well, with mainframes, there was a very good reason that the industry went to PCs. The networking infrastructure just wasn't there. Now, fiber connections are becoming ubiquitous and intranets are super fast, mainframe computing makes sense again. (not that it ever went away, but the real world use cases for mainframe computing has really caught up to the original vision.)
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    The only difference is that modern terminals are prettier.
georgeecollins 8y ago
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What examples are you thinking of with “Everyone slowly goes back to the old technology?”

by jl6 8y ago

What examples are you thinking of with “Everyone slowly goes back to the old technology?”

Not OP, but recently a group at my company abandoned MongoDB and went back to a relational database after going through the exact scenario outlined by the OP (actually, the OP's comment so closely aligned with what happened that I actually wonder if he/she is actually a developer with that team at my company ;-)

52-6F-62 8y ago
Interesting. I'm currently working MongoDB into a couple of projects I have going at work (they're not really outward facing except for potentially one generated view). For these projects it seemed to make a ton of sense given the rest of the stack, the nature of the projects, the deadlines I'm facing, and I've really loved working with it so far. Why did you end up moving off of it?
- Deadron 8y ago
  The simple fact is mongoDB fails to have sufficient durability guarantees for business data when compared to a traditional RDBMS. That is one of the reasons why its so fast in comparison. A power loss event during data writes can and will lead to data loss. https://www.mongodb.com/blog/post/what-about-durability https://www.mongodb.com/blog/post/what-about-durability
  - 52-6F-62 8y ago
    Sounds like a "right tool for the job" situation. I thankfully don't have to worry about power loss (large company, teams dedicated to critical systems infrastructure in a big way), and a cron job can handle any archival concerns in the projects I'm running here. It does sound like they've improved much since 2011. Anyway thanks for the insight
    - thawkins 8y ago
      MongoDB 4.x also brings transactions to the table, which further reduces the vulnerability to inconsistent data. Data loss is far less of a problem than inconsistency due to partially completed operations and data damage.

mlaretallack 8y ago

The first that comes to mind is mainframe. Just the only name for cloud computing.

jjeaff 8y ago
Well, with mainframes, there was a very good reason that the industry went to PCs. The networking infrastructure just wasn't there. Now, fiber connections are becoming ubiquitous and intranets are super fast, mainframe computing makes sense again. (not that it ever went away, but the real world use cases for mainframe computing has really caught up to the original vision.)
- pjmlp 8y ago
  The only difference is that modern terminals are prettier.

georgeecollins 8y ago