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> Its main purpose is to significantly reduce bandwidth and thus both increase browsing speeds and decrease bandwidth costs. How does it reduce bandwidth exact

by bwag 8y ago

> Its main purpose is to significantly reduce bandwidth and thus both increase browsing speeds and decrease bandwidth costs. How does it reduce bandwidth exactly? It still has to grab all the html/css/js for the site being rendered.

mahesh_rm 8y ago
does it fetch images? if it does not, there you go..
- deleted 8y ago
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robrtsql 8y ago
I think the use-case is that the user is running their headless browser on a remote server with a good internet connection. Then they open an SSH tunnel to that server from their local machine which has low bandwidth--and the only thing that needs to be received by the local machine is the browsh rendering of the webpage.
- tombh 8y ago
  Exactly. As well SSH/Mosh access there's a HTTP service, that currently only outputs static, noninteractive HTML and basic graphics. For example: https://html.brow.sh/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17487552 https://html.brow.sh/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17...
  - bwag 8y ago
    Ah, that makes sense. Cool project!
  - _dark_matter_ 8y ago
    This sounds like your ticket to making money then. Have a hosted option.
    - stockkid 8y ago
      I'd be wary to use a hosted option because a browser in a remote server will then contain my credentials and browsing history. So if OP goes down this road then I think he should allow users to access machines.
      - tombh 8y ago
        What do you mean by access to machines? Like SSH access? Do you think such a service would be significantly different to an email service in terms of privacy concerns?
        peatmoss 8y ago
        Yes, I do think it’s pretty different. If you weren’t the fine upstanding person you are, you’d have all the web traffic of users at your disposal: banking, secure interactions with healthcare providers, credentials to Hacker News, the whole nine yards. With access to my email, you could probably reset a handful of my passwords to various services that don’t support dual factor auth, and you could probably discover what services I subscribe to. I mean, I wouldn’t want you to have access to my email, but I would much rather that than a permanent man-in-the-middle web client.
        e12e 8y ago
        It should be quite doable to spin up a container/VM on demand. I'd probably look at lxd/lxc or bsd jails for this (both with zfs for storage) - or if there now are any real ways to run containers under hw virtualization - maybe that. Maybe something like: https://github.com/rkt/rkt/blob/master/Documentation/running-kvm-stage1.md https://github.com/rkt/rkt/blob/master/Documentation/running... for VM backed containers - but I'm not sure if it's considered stable and/or secure.
        tombh 8y ago
        Thanks for the suggestion. I'm already using Kubernetes/Docker for the `ssh brow.sh` service. What advantages would your approach have?

by bwag 8y ago

mahesh_rm 8y ago

does it fetch images? if it does not, there you go..

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robrtsql 8y ago

I think the use-case is that the user is running their headless browser on a remote server with a good internet connection. Then they open an SSH tunnel to that server from their local machine which has low bandwidth--and the only thing that needs to be received by the local machine is the browsh rendering of the webpage.

tombh 8y ago
Exactly. As well SSH/Mosh access there's a HTTP service, that currently only outputs static, noninteractive HTML and basic graphics. For example: https://html.brow.sh/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17487552 https://html.brow.sh/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17...
- bwag 8y ago
  Ah, that makes sense. Cool project!
- _dark_matter_ 8y ago
  This sounds like your ticket to making money then. Have a hosted option.
  - stockkid 8y ago
    I'd be wary to use a hosted option because a browser in a remote server will then contain my credentials and browsing history. So if OP goes down this road then I think he should allow users to access machines.
    - tombh 8y ago
      What do you mean by access to machines? Like SSH access? Do you think such a service would be significantly different to an email service in terms of privacy concerns?
      - peatmoss 8y ago
        Yes, I do think it’s pretty different. If you weren’t the fine upstanding person you are, you’d have all the web traffic of users at your disposal: banking, secure interactions with healthcare providers, credentials to Hacker News, the whole nine yards. With access to my email, you could probably reset a handful of my passwords to various services that don’t support dual factor auth, and you could probably discover what services I subscribe to. I mean, I wouldn’t want you to have access to my email, but I would much rather that than a permanent man-in-the-middle web client.
        e12e 8y ago
        It should be quite doable to spin up a container/VM on demand. I'd probably look at lxd/lxc or bsd jails for this (both with zfs for storage) - or if there now are any real ways to run containers under hw virtualization - maybe that. Maybe something like: https://github.com/rkt/rkt/blob/master/Documentation/running-kvm-stage1.md https://github.com/rkt/rkt/blob/master/Documentation/running... for VM backed containers - but I'm not sure if it's considered stable and/or secure.
        tombh 8y ago
        Thanks for the suggestion. I'm already using Kubernetes/Docker for the `ssh brow.sh` service. What advantages would your approach have?