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This explains the mysterious increased measure of atmospheric CFCs. Hopefully this will help stabilize ozone hole again. Can't believe that China would allow th

This explains the mysterious increased measure of atmospheric CFCs. Hopefully this will help stabilize ozone hole again. Can't believe that China would allow this given all they have to lose. Causing further damage to the ozone will intensify other environmental issues the country and planet experience.

seanmcdirmid 8y ago
China doesn’t have as strong a government as many people would think. A lot of enterprising individuals and even local governments will do whatever they can get away with to make a few more yuan. They’ll only stop when the central government gets serious and cracks down. But the same could be said for any hyper capitalistic society without rule of law or strong regulatory enforcement. That just happens to mainly be China right now, but could also be the USA in the future if the EPA is dismantled and Trumpism reigns.
- subway 8y ago
  Shan gao, huangdi yuan — “The mountains are high, and the emperor is far away.”
- HillaryBriss 8y ago
  Given the tremendous quantity of illegal explosives and fiery flying projectiles (fireworks and skyrockets) discharged in suburban streets over the last week in my fire-prone, drought challenged US city, one might conclude that the US doesn't have a very strong government either.
  - CNJ7654 8y ago
    It's almost like police are allowed discretion in their duties, and choose willingly not to arrest or fine normal people who are just having a fun time with fireworks on Independence Day weekend (despite the cries of overprotective soccer moms). Really makes you think!
  - seanmcdirmid 8y ago
    Chinese New Year in Beijing a few years ago was like a war zone during the Gulf war (actualky probably much worse). It’s gotten better recently, but I’m sure even minor fireworks during CNY in a rural area blows anything in the USA completely away.
pofilat 8y ago
What does China have to lose?
- Pica_soO 8y ago
  There agriculture in Australia and Africa? Rising sea-levels and with them huge swaths of the most densely populated coastal area on the planet? If the oceans rise 2 meters half of their coastal citys are in for severe flooding. http://en-gb.topographic-map.com/places/Shanghai-8976316/ http://en-gb.topographic-map.com/places/Shanghai-8976316/
chmod775 8y ago
> Can't believe that China would allow this given all they have to lose. They don't. It's already illegal there. Factories creating that gas are doing so in secret and are unregistered. Licensed factories secretly using that gas appear to be good at evading the discovery of that fact by authorities, partly due to corrupt inspectors. It's mentioned in the video in the linked article.

seanmcdirmid 8y ago

China doesn’t have as strong a government as many people would think. A lot of enterprising individuals and even local governments will do whatever they can get away with to make a few more yuan. They’ll only stop when the central government gets serious and cracks down. But the same could be said for any hyper capitalistic society without rule of law or strong regulatory enforcement. That just happens to mainly be China right now, but could also be the USA in the future if the EPA is dismantled and Trumpism reigns.

subway 8y ago
Shan gao, huangdi yuan — “The mountains are high, and the emperor is far away.”
HillaryBriss 8y ago
Given the tremendous quantity of illegal explosives and fiery flying projectiles (fireworks and skyrockets) discharged in suburban streets over the last week in my fire-prone, drought challenged US city, one might conclude that the US doesn't have a very strong government either.
- CNJ7654 8y ago
  It's almost like police are allowed discretion in their duties, and choose willingly not to arrest or fine normal people who are just having a fun time with fireworks on Independence Day weekend (despite the cries of overprotective soccer moms). Really makes you think!
- seanmcdirmid 8y ago
  Chinese New Year in Beijing a few years ago was like a war zone during the Gulf war (actualky probably much worse). It’s gotten better recently, but I’m sure even minor fireworks during CNY in a rural area blows anything in the USA completely away.

pofilat 8y ago

What does China have to lose?

Pica_soO 8y ago
There agriculture in Australia and Africa? Rising sea-levels and with them huge swaths of the most densely populated coastal area on the planet? If the oceans rise 2 meters half of their coastal citys are in for severe flooding. http://en-gb.topographic-map.com/places/Shanghai-8976316/ http://en-gb.topographic-map.com/places/Shanghai-8976316/

chmod775 8y ago

> Can't believe that China would allow this given all they have to lose. They don't. It's already illegal there. Factories creating that gas are doing so in secret and are unregistered. Licensed factories secretly using that gas appear to be good at evading the discovery of that fact by authorities, partly due to corrupt inspectors. It's mentioned in the video in the linked article.