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Physical and Mental Effects of Bathing: A Randomized Intervention Study

88 points by okket 8y ago

lobotryas 8y ago
Was anyone able to confirm if the 10min baths were taken daily?
nixgeek 8y ago
I’m sure the marketing departments at hot tub companies across the US will latch onto this shortly, and add it to their stable of small sample “medical evidence” used to justify spending on their wares. Hot Spring are particularly bad for this, at least at all their dealerships local to me.
- dghughes 8y ago
  I find hot tubs weird. A bath by myself or with a partner is OK but a hot tub with half a dozen people? Shudder.
  - robbrown451 8y ago
    You don't have to be naked.
    - GW150914 8y ago
      I could be totally wrong, but I’m guessing that they’re coming from a “stewing in a brew of other people’s excreta and skin flakes, dirt and sebum,” rather than a modesty angle.
      - robbrown451 8y ago
        I guess. I'm glad I don't dwell on such things. I wouldn't want to breathe the air.
    - handbanana 8y ago
      Sure, but that’s not very polite
21 8y ago
I'm not sure how to feel about a study with sample size 38 in the current reproduction crisis.
- deleted 8y ago
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wastra 8y ago
The outcome measure was whether the participants felt good. The authors dangle the _association_ of this with actual longevity, which of course means nothing whatsoever in the context of this very weak study in an irrelevant journal.
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robbrown451 8y ago
I can't speak to the quality of their study, but I strongly suspect there is validity to their conclusion. Inspired by the bathing scene in My Neighbor Totoro (which admittedly seems a bit creepy by American standards), relaxing tub baths have become a regular ritual for my 4 year old daughter and I. The only difference is that we both wear swimsuits, because, well, it's America. It certainly seems to do wonders for mental well being, if not physical.
- HarryHirsch 8y ago
  we both wear swimsuits, because, well, it's America Yes, America, where they distract attention from their nakedness though oversized bathing trunks.
  - __blockcipher__ 8y ago
    As an American, I've never understood why those god damn oversized bathing suits are such a thing. Also I find it pretty funny that the parent comment is afraid to be naked in the bathtub with their 4 year-old. That seems...sorrowful, to put it lightly
    - robbrown451 8y ago
      Well for one, I'm a single dad in a contested custody situation. But even if not...people are real quick to question things like that. It's the world we live in. And it's not a big hot tub, it's a regular tub, so she is often climbing on me etc. I mean, why go there when a swimsuit doesn't harm the enjoyment of bathing significantly? I'm honestly curious....do you know of dads in America that bathe naked with 4 year old daughters? I'm guessing most just avoid the bath altogether, which I think is a shame. I don't avoid the bath, I just take a tiny measure to avoid anyone questioning it.
      - __blockcipher__ 8y ago
        Yes, I know of dads that bathe naked with their 4 year old daughters. It makes sense in the context of your situation, though.
amelius 8y ago
Would similar results hold for a portable sauna, e.g. [1]? [1] https://www.amazon.in/Total-Sauna-Portable-Steam-Bath/dp/B00K0I1CPE https://www.amazon.in/Total-Sauna-Portable-Steam-Bath/dp/B00...
devereaux 8y ago
My personal quality of life is enhanced by having a bathtub in the bathroom. I love long warm bath every other day, with plenty of cold water. It does wonder for my upper body! I pondered purchasing a hot tub, but eventually decided against. It would anchor me to a home, while I often move every year. Instead, I enjoy going to a Jjimjilbang at least once or twice a month. I spend a full day there, eating a Galbitang or whatever. Sometimes I bring a computer, sometimes an ebook, sometimes nothing at all. The days spend with no distraction are the most productive! Unfortunately, in North America most Jjimjilbang do not let you sleep there anymore.
renjimen 8y ago
I imagine roughly the same bodily and social impact goes for using a sauna, which my Finnish friends tell me is something integral to their way of life. It’s not uncommon to have a small sauna in your apartment, and it touches on many aspects of their lives, from business, to family, to romantic relationships, to just relaxing after work. I’ve started to go to the local sauna a few times a week after work with my girlfriend and I do notice it resets my mind, much like going for a long run. The rest of the evening seems much more dreamy and easy going. Unfortunately, I’m not sure the trend will catch on in the UK, where I’m from, as we’re generally pretty prude and uncomfortable with most of our clothes off!
- meheleventyone 8y ago
  One of the best parts of moving to Iceland for me was the copious hot water. The culture is more towards outdoor hot tubs (pots) than saunas though. Lots of great times sitting out in snowstorms. There’s an extensive set of municipal pools as well which are great for my kids. My own personal ritual is to spend Friday morning relaxing in solitude amongst the regular and assorted tourists. In the UK I loved baths but renting very rarely found places with them and I actually prefer being around other people.
  - crooked-v 8y ago
    I find myself wondering if there's any correlation between (a) enjoying being in a hot tub surrounded by snow and (b) preferring to sleep covered by a heavy blanket but with your feet sticking out.
    - corey_moncure 8y ago
      I'll be a point in your anecdata. This describes me perfectly.
  - renjimen 8y ago
    Those public baths are great! I remember some built into a beach near Reykjavik that were fed by a geothermal spring. Really relaxing to watch the weather come in from the comfort of the warm water then brave the ocean to cool down. You’re on to something with being around others. Makes us feel a little safer and provides entertainment? I’m sure there are lots of reasons.
driverdan 8y ago
This is a mostly worthless study. The sample size is too small, there is no blinding, the results are self-reported, and it's published in a quack alternative medicine journal.
anotherevan 8y ago
I must admit, a title that describes randomized intervention of bathing brings to mind the vision of smelly people being accosted with with buckets of soapy water. Reality can be so disappointing.
maroonmed 8y ago
As if we really need any more reasons to encourage software engineers to bathe less...
Frofessor 8y ago
I like this short movie, Snow monkey in "Natural hot spring". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPxrseYWfds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPxrseYWfds

88 points by okket 8y ago

Was anyone able to confirm if the 10min baths were taken daily?

I’m sure the marketing departments at hot tub companies across the US will latch onto this shortly, and add it to their stable of small sample “medical evidence” used to justify spending on their wares. Hot Spring are particularly bad for this, at least at all their dealerships local to me.

dghughes 8y ago
I find hot tubs weird. A bath by myself or with a partner is OK but a hot tub with half a dozen people? Shudder.
- robbrown451 8y ago
  You don't have to be naked.
  - GW150914 8y ago
    I could be totally wrong, but I’m guessing that they’re coming from a “stewing in a brew of other people’s excreta and skin flakes, dirt and sebum,” rather than a modesty angle.
    - robbrown451 8y ago
      I guess. I'm glad I don't dwell on such things. I wouldn't want to breathe the air.
  - handbanana 8y ago
    Sure, but that’s not very polite

21 8y ago

I'm not sure how to feel about a study with sample size 38 in the current reproduction crisis.

deleted 8y ago
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wastra 8y ago

The outcome measure was whether the participants felt good. The authors dangle the _association_ of this with actual longevity, which of course means nothing whatsoever in the context of this very weak study in an irrelevant journal.

deleted 8y ago

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robbrown451 8y ago

I can't speak to the quality of their study, but I strongly suspect there is validity to their conclusion. Inspired by the bathing scene in My Neighbor Totoro (which admittedly seems a bit creepy by American standards), relaxing tub baths have become a regular ritual for my 4 year old daughter and I. The only difference is that we both wear swimsuits, because, well, it's America. It certainly seems to do wonders for mental well being, if not physical.

HarryHirsch 8y ago
we both wear swimsuits, because, well, it's America Yes, America, where they distract attention from their nakedness though oversized bathing trunks.
- __blockcipher__ 8y ago
  As an American, I've never understood why those god damn oversized bathing suits are such a thing. Also I find it pretty funny that the parent comment is afraid to be naked in the bathtub with their 4 year-old. That seems...sorrowful, to put it lightly
  - robbrown451 8y ago
    Well for one, I'm a single dad in a contested custody situation. But even if not...people are real quick to question things like that. It's the world we live in. And it's not a big hot tub, it's a regular tub, so she is often climbing on me etc. I mean, why go there when a swimsuit doesn't harm the enjoyment of bathing significantly? I'm honestly curious....do you know of dads in America that bathe naked with 4 year old daughters? I'm guessing most just avoid the bath altogether, which I think is a shame. I don't avoid the bath, I just take a tiny measure to avoid anyone questioning it.
    - __blockcipher__ 8y ago
      Yes, I know of dads that bathe naked with their 4 year old daughters. It makes sense in the context of your situation, though.

amelius 8y ago

Would similar results hold for a portable sauna, e.g. [1]? [1] https://www.amazon.in/Total-Sauna-Portable-Steam-Bath/dp/B00K0I1CPE https://www.amazon.in/Total-Sauna-Portable-Steam-Bath/dp/B00...

devereaux 8y ago

My personal quality of life is enhanced by having a bathtub in the bathroom. I love long warm bath every other day, with plenty of cold water. It does wonder for my upper body! I pondered purchasing a hot tub, but eventually decided against. It would anchor me to a home, while I often move every year. Instead, I enjoy going to a Jjimjilbang at least once or twice a month. I spend a full day there, eating a Galbitang or whatever. Sometimes I bring a computer, sometimes an ebook, sometimes nothing at all. The days spend with no distraction are the most productive! Unfortunately, in North America most Jjimjilbang do not let you sleep there anymore.

renjimen 8y ago

I imagine roughly the same bodily and social impact goes for using a sauna, which my Finnish friends tell me is something integral to their way of life. It’s not uncommon to have a small sauna in your apartment, and it touches on many aspects of their lives, from business, to family, to romantic relationships, to just relaxing after work. I’ve started to go to the local sauna a few times a week after work with my girlfriend and I do notice it resets my mind, much like going for a long run. The rest of the evening seems much more dreamy and easy going. Unfortunately, I’m not sure the trend will catch on in the UK, where I’m from, as we’re generally pretty prude and uncomfortable with most of our clothes off!

meheleventyone 8y ago
One of the best parts of moving to Iceland for me was the copious hot water. The culture is more towards outdoor hot tubs (pots) than saunas though. Lots of great times sitting out in snowstorms. There’s an extensive set of municipal pools as well which are great for my kids. My own personal ritual is to spend Friday morning relaxing in solitude amongst the regular and assorted tourists. In the UK I loved baths but renting very rarely found places with them and I actually prefer being around other people.
- crooked-v 8y ago
  I find myself wondering if there's any correlation between (a) enjoying being in a hot tub surrounded by snow and (b) preferring to sleep covered by a heavy blanket but with your feet sticking out.
  - corey_moncure 8y ago
    I'll be a point in your anecdata. This describes me perfectly.
- renjimen 8y ago
  Those public baths are great! I remember some built into a beach near Reykjavik that were fed by a geothermal spring. Really relaxing to watch the weather come in from the comfort of the warm water then brave the ocean to cool down. You’re on to something with being around others. Makes us feel a little safer and provides entertainment? I’m sure there are lots of reasons.

driverdan 8y ago

This is a mostly worthless study. The sample size is too small, there is no blinding, the results are self-reported, and it's published in a quack alternative medicine journal.

anotherevan 8y ago

I must admit, a title that describes randomized intervention of bathing brings to mind the vision of smelly people being accosted with with buckets of soapy water. Reality can be so disappointing.

maroonmed 8y ago

As if we really need any more reasons to encourage software engineers to bathe less...

Frofessor 8y ago

I like this short movie, Snow monkey in "Natural hot spring". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPxrseYWfds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPxrseYWfds