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> Last time I suggested something similar, it was pointed out that unmanned aircraft are highly susceptible to jamming. Thus, the only way to make them really r
by antpls 8y ago
> Last time I suggested something similar, it was pointed out that unmanned aircraft are highly susceptible to jamming. Thus, the only way to make them really resilient is to make them completely operable without any human intervention.
What would a human pilot be able to do if all the fighter instruments are jammed? At best the human pilot may be able to escape the battlefield I guess.
- nradov 8y agoHuman pilots train constantly to operate effectively in a hostile electromagnetic environment. And the aircraft are designed around it. This is expected.
- antpls 8y agoAIs can be trained in simulated environments to meet many more situations than any human would in its life time of practice
- nradov 8y agoNope, we don't have AIs capable of doing that yet. Perhaps someday. But we can't make decisions based on hypothetical future technology.
- antpls 8y agoI mean, yes we have. This is how the Go AI was trained to beat the world champion, and it also helps to develop the autonomous cars at Waymo. Give it like 5 years and you have enough compute power to simulate many more data and situations.
- nradov 8y agoWrong. Go is a game with a small number of defined rules and zero ambiguity in the inputs. It's not even remotely comparable.
- antpls 8y agohttps://medium.com/syncedreview/simulations-pave-the-road-for-self-driving-technologies-78b696227383 https://medium.com/syncedreview/simulations-pave-the-road-fo... If you are not convinced, you can look for "waymo simulation" in your favorite search engines.
- nradov 8y agoI've read all that stuff before and none of it addresses the fundamental problems at issue here. We are realistically still decades of intense R&D work away from having an autonomous AI that can respond with enough flexibility to rapidly changing real world situations.
- antpls 8y agoWe are realistically closer to autonomous AI than you imagine. Pessimism, budget planning that didn't anticipate it, ethical concerns and human employment are slowing down the development.
- mrep 8y agoUse the machine gun, missles might still work, maneuver the jet using their vision. A drone has to be able to do all of that and make those decisions with no human on the ground to control it if it is jammed from communication. I don't think computers can beat a human in that type of scenario yet.
- antpls 8y agoMy intuition is that they could already, but too long term investment plans like the F35 plan slowed developments in that direction.
- yogthos 8y agoThis technology is already well on its way https://www.wired.com/2016/06/ai-fighter-pilot-beats-human-no-need-panic-really/ https://www.wired.com/2016/06/ai-fighter-pilot-beats-human-n...