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Wow, imagine being raided by police and having all your stuff stolen, just because the police allege that you helped someone do something "anti-government". To

Wow, imagine being raided by police and having all your stuff stolen, just because the police allege that you helped someone do something "anti-government". Tor board, I would offer you my help, but I'm an American, so we would probably all be sent to Guantanamo

prolikewh0a 8y ago
Never threaten the profits and capital. They will find you.
- anoncoward111 8y ago
  This is the motivation behind so many corporate-police partnerships, it's really sickening. Like, if the bank forecloses on you, the police will be more than happy to evict you as soon as the bank demands it. But if the bank ever accidentally loses your money or something, be prepared for the police to laugh you out of the station if you ask for help getting your money back by force
superkuh 8y ago
I don't have to. It happened to me in 2010 in the middle of the USA. 6am no-knock raid by regional FBI agents with guns drawn. They stole all of my computer equipment and my flatmate's computer equipment too. There were never any charges brought. We never got our stuff back. The local police were brought in to try to charge me with something, anything, and the best they could come up with was a city ordinance called "Maintaining a disorderly house." -- yeah, it tends to be a bit messy after the feds have trashed it. Of course back then the feds were really up in arms trying to squash any and all grassroots political organizations (ie, wikileaks + occupy). Even more than now.
- anoncoward111 8y ago
  What is life like after this? I would love to help, as a semi-anonymous ally of anyone who has put their livelihood on the line so that we could have nice things like privacy and decentralized services :)
  - superkuh 8y ago
    Life became full of uncertainty about the future and the lack of ability to plan that brings with it. I would go to bed every night half expecting that I'd awaken to shouting and guns pointed at me. 5+ years of panic attacks whenever I heard a loud noise like a car door slam outside or a heavy knock at the door. For many years I completely stopped posting about my political opinions online. A few years ago even just writing this the memories would've had me shaking. I didn't react well and it kind of ruined my life, but it didn't necessarily have to. All they really did was threaten me and steal my stuff. I never heard from them again after that day.
    - anoncoward111 8y ago
      I know that feel. I wish you all the best, and if the situation ever gets worse in our country, I hope that we can somehow move to a country that will protect our existence!!
- TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
  Police raided my home in South Australia. It was drug related, and I was dealing, so fair enough. They later dropped the charges, nolle prosequi. But did they have to make such a mess? I mean, they had had my keys and still busted open locks, pulled everything out of everything and threw it across the room, upturned everything that wasn't bolted down. And they still didn't find some of the drugs in plain sight, and a substantial amount of cash that was barely hidden. More recently they forced their way in to my home Sunday night at 12am and dragged me off before I had a chance to get out of my pajamas to charge me with assault on allegations I pushed someone over in to 2 feet of fresh snow. Held me till midday Monday forcing me to miss a day at work and appear in court in my bed clothes. Yeah, they dropped those charges too. The police are the enemy. And an incompetent, gun wielding, violent enemy immune to the law.
  - anoncoward111 8y ago
    The government quite literally hires goons to be... well... armed goons. I am so, so sorry to hear about what you went through. These guys are overpaid thugs with a lot of public support shockingly
  - lsh 8y ago
    Wait, South Australia and feet of snow?? All that fuic in your fridge isn't going to convince me you're from around here.
microcolonel 8y ago
> Tor board, I would offer you my help, but I'm an American, so we would probably all be sent to Guantanamo You'd be sent to Guantánamo for offending the German federal police?

prolikewh0a 8y ago

Never threaten the profits and capital. They will find you.

anoncoward111 8y ago
This is the motivation behind so many corporate-police partnerships, it's really sickening. Like, if the bank forecloses on you, the police will be more than happy to evict you as soon as the bank demands it. But if the bank ever accidentally loses your money or something, be prepared for the police to laugh you out of the station if you ask for help getting your money back by force

superkuh 8y ago

I don't have to. It happened to me in 2010 in the middle of the USA. 6am no-knock raid by regional FBI agents with guns drawn. They stole all of my computer equipment and my flatmate's computer equipment too. There were never any charges brought. We never got our stuff back. The local police were brought in to try to charge me with something, anything, and the best they could come up with was a city ordinance called "Maintaining a disorderly house." -- yeah, it tends to be a bit messy after the feds have trashed it. Of course back then the feds were really up in arms trying to squash any and all grassroots political organizations (ie, wikileaks + occupy). Even more than now.

anoncoward111 8y ago
What is life like after this? I would love to help, as a semi-anonymous ally of anyone who has put their livelihood on the line so that we could have nice things like privacy and decentralized services :)
- superkuh 8y ago
  Life became full of uncertainty about the future and the lack of ability to plan that brings with it. I would go to bed every night half expecting that I'd awaken to shouting and guns pointed at me. 5+ years of panic attacks whenever I heard a loud noise like a car door slam outside or a heavy knock at the door. For many years I completely stopped posting about my political opinions online. A few years ago even just writing this the memories would've had me shaking. I didn't react well and it kind of ruined my life, but it didn't necessarily have to. All they really did was threaten me and steal my stuff. I never heard from them again after that day.
  - anoncoward111 8y ago
    I know that feel. I wish you all the best, and if the situation ever gets worse in our country, I hope that we can somehow move to a country that will protect our existence!!
TheSpiceIsLife 8y ago
Police raided my home in South Australia. It was drug related, and I was dealing, so fair enough. They later dropped the charges, nolle prosequi. But did they have to make such a mess? I mean, they had had my keys and still busted open locks, pulled everything out of everything and threw it across the room, upturned everything that wasn't bolted down. And they still didn't find some of the drugs in plain sight, and a substantial amount of cash that was barely hidden. More recently they forced their way in to my home Sunday night at 12am and dragged me off before I had a chance to get out of my pajamas to charge me with assault on allegations I pushed someone over in to 2 feet of fresh snow. Held me till midday Monday forcing me to miss a day at work and appear in court in my bed clothes. Yeah, they dropped those charges too. The police are the enemy. And an incompetent, gun wielding, violent enemy immune to the law.
- anoncoward111 8y ago
  The government quite literally hires goons to be... well... armed goons. I am so, so sorry to hear about what you went through. These guys are overpaid thugs with a lot of public support shockingly
- lsh 8y ago
  Wait, South Australia and feet of snow?? All that fuic in your fridge isn't going to convince me you're from around here.

microcolonel 8y ago

> Tor board, I would offer you my help, but I'm an American, so we would probably all be sent to Guantanamo You'd be sent to Guantánamo for offending the German federal police?