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> pushing what used to be extreme-right standpoints more towards the more acceptable political middle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window https://en.w

> pushing what used to be extreme-right standpoints more towards the more acceptable political middle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window It's a political tactic used since at least Roman days.

ajuc 8y ago
Why can't we create copyright abolition proposal to do the same the other way?
- vixen99 8y ago
  And the route to proposing laws in the EU is ... ?
  - ajuc 8y ago
    I have no idea. Probably buy a coffee to some europarliament member and talk to him about it.
    - sampo 8y ago
      Unlike the US Congress, The European Parliament cannot initiate legislation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_initiative_(legislative)#Legislative_initiative_in_the_European_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_initiative_(legislati...
- pbhjpbhj 8y ago
  Because you need funding (and popular support). The only way to match the funding behind copyright increase is to appeal to the public, but the opposite lobby control the media which most of the public feeds on as if it were manna from heaven. Reduce copyright to 15 years? B-but Mickey will die, and we'll be so poor at EvilMedia Corp. we won't be able to make any more Marvel or Star Wars.
  - anticensor 8y ago
    Both copyright and patent should be reformed to have the same duration, 21 years (until you are replaced by your descendant's apprentices): 1. For copyright, these 21 years should be organised as 4-12yr granted (varying on the work, lack of registration meaning public domain by default) and renewable every six months with an exponentially increasing maintenance fee (first maintainance fee might be placed in the ballpark of £8192). 2. For patents, these 21 years should be organised as 3½ years after grant (this will encourage to file as soon as possible to get protection), renewable every 3½ years with an exponentially increasing maintenance fee (first maintainance fee might be placed in the ballpark of £1,048,576). 3. For sculptures and buildings, these copyright should cease one year after construction is completed, but with a limitation that protection not allowed to exceed 7 years in total.
    - Tharkun 8y ago
      Who do I vote for in order to make this happen?
      - ajuc 8y ago
        In some European coutnries there is Pirate Party in the parliament. They are focused on fighting oppresive intelectual property and copyright laws.
  - ajuc 8y ago
    > B-but Mickey will die, and we'll be so poor at EvilMedia Corp. we won't be able to make any more Marvel or Star Wars. None of these are European, though. Should be easy to sell, especially now that UK is exiting.

ajuc 8y ago

Why can't we create copyright abolition proposal to do the same the other way?

vixen99 8y ago
And the route to proposing laws in the EU is ... ?
- ajuc 8y ago
  I have no idea. Probably buy a coffee to some europarliament member and talk to him about it.
  - sampo 8y ago
    Unlike the US Congress, The European Parliament cannot initiate legislation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_initiative_(legislative)#Legislative_initiative_in_the_European_Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_initiative_(legislati...
pbhjpbhj 8y ago
Because you need funding (and popular support). The only way to match the funding behind copyright increase is to appeal to the public, but the opposite lobby control the media which most of the public feeds on as if it were manna from heaven. Reduce copyright to 15 years? B-but Mickey will die, and we'll be so poor at EvilMedia Corp. we won't be able to make any more Marvel or Star Wars.
- anticensor 8y ago
  Both copyright and patent should be reformed to have the same duration, 21 years (until you are replaced by your descendant's apprentices): 1. For copyright, these 21 years should be organised as 4-12yr granted (varying on the work, lack of registration meaning public domain by default) and renewable every six months with an exponentially increasing maintenance fee (first maintainance fee might be placed in the ballpark of £8192). 2. For patents, these 21 years should be organised as 3½ years after grant (this will encourage to file as soon as possible to get protection), renewable every 3½ years with an exponentially increasing maintenance fee (first maintainance fee might be placed in the ballpark of £1,048,576). 3. For sculptures and buildings, these copyright should cease one year after construction is completed, but with a limitation that protection not allowed to exceed 7 years in total.
  - Tharkun 8y ago
    Who do I vote for in order to make this happen?
    - ajuc 8y ago
      In some European coutnries there is Pirate Party in the parliament. They are focused on fighting oppresive intelectual property and copyright laws.
- ajuc 8y ago
  > B-but Mickey will die, and we'll be so poor at EvilMedia Corp. we won't be able to make any more Marvel or Star Wars. None of these are European, though. Should be easy to sell, especially now that UK is exiting.