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Ask HN: Where can I obtain Google Glass(-like) devices for development purposes?

44 points by crypto-jeronimo 8y ago

netsec_burn 8y ago
Look into getting a Vuzix Blade. It ships in 4-6 weeks for a devkit.
Schumer 8y ago
Hololens, talk to ms
deepeshpandey 8y ago
I have been doing some development on smart glasses. You have many choices like Ora which you can buy from there portal, vuzix. Especially, google glass can be bought from https://www.streye.com/ https://www.streye.com/.
douglaswlance 8y ago
Google Glass is just a tiny notification window. It's not what 99% of people think it is. I'm not sure where the communication broke down, but it seems a ton of people heard about Google Glass and thought it was going to be an AR headset that they'd wear all the time. It's just not that useful. It's worse than mounting an Apple Watch to your head.
- ceejayoz 8y ago
  Google's marketing videos showed things like a full Google Map for directions (example: https://youtu.be/ErpNpR3XYUw?t=45s https://youtu.be/ErpNpR3XYUw?t=45s). I'm not surprised people got confused.
  - crypto-jeronimo 8y ago
    Yes, my point, precisely. Thank you.
- crypto-jeronimo 8y ago
  Thanks for your reply. I believe it must've been from their promo video. I'm happy that the question came across correctly and the people who have responded so far took this into consideration and glossed over what you've pointed out (if it's indeed the case).
- ransom1538 8y ago
  "Google Glass is just a tiny notification window." Birth control for your face. I think is where it broke down. Edit: I know, I know.... you worked on the project and you need to down vote.
  - geoah 8y ago
    Is it really any different to people walking around with the first Windows CE ipaq and htc phones, and huge nokia communicator querty flip ones literally more than 20 years ago? I applaud Microsoft, Google, and anyone who tries to invent part of our future, even if they fail. Microsoft's tablet windows were amazing, they were bulky and ux was pretty bad, but at least they tried. And Google did the same with Glass. Constructive criticism is always welcome and results in discussions that might help people who are or will be driving similar technologies. There is really no reason to call it "birth control for your face".
    - lawlessone 8y ago
      Nobody strapped their ipaq to their face.
      - LyndsySimon 8y ago
        I still have my iPad somewhere. If they'd made a VR mount for it I'd have absolutely had it strapped to my face.
  - lordCarbonFiber 8y ago
    You seem like the kind of person that called kids with glasses "4-eyes" in elementary school. Glass didn't look that bad, calm down. Glass failed because it was a pain in the ass to develop for, hard to store/take off (no hinges), and weak tech (battery, video processing, voice control).
    - mey 8y ago
      Also expensive
- lordCarbonFiber 8y ago
  Glass is the logical zenith of the smart watch. Having to give up a hand to look at your wrist almost defeats the purpose of having the mirrored notifications. It's not the AR revolution the media hyped it up to be, but I'd bet money that's where wearables go as the tech gets better and people forget about the whole affair.
_pmf_ 8y ago
TI Pico DLP[0] is a nice platform for projectors at small scale. [0] http://www.ti.com/dlp-chip/display-and-projection/pico-chipsets/getting-started.html http://www.ti.com/dlp-chip/display-and-projection/pico-chips...
- jesse_m 8y ago
  I've been looking at this too bit where do you source the wave guides?
  - moftz 8y ago
    I never realized optical wave guides were a thing but I guess fiber optics are a medium that sort of mimics how RF wave guides work.
greggman 8y ago
you can make a cheap Pepper's ghost periscope setup for any smartphone. example http://ibelieveinghost.com/ http://ibelieveinghost.com/
- deleted 8y ago
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- zeeed 8y ago
  the pre-order link leads to a dead indiegogo project: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ghost-best-affordable-augmented-reality-headset-youtube-apps#/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ghost-best-affordable-aug... do you have other examples or references to news about the ghost project?
  - greggman 8y ago
    I don't but I see people making their own at VR/AR meetups here one though it's not a periscope which is important as you need the phone's camera to face forward https://vrscout.com/projects/diy-ar-device-hololens/ https://vrscout.com/projects/diy-ar-device-hololens/ here's some other thing https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/18/15948700/mira-prism-iphone-augmented-reality-headset-hands-on-announce https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/18/15948700/mira-prism-iphon...
didip 8y ago
What you really want is something like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bnfwClgheF0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bnfwClgheF0 Too bad Intel shut that department down.
nickthegreek 8y ago
I have a pair of Google Glass that I am willing to sell if you are interested.
kolencherry 8y ago
I used to run a startup in this space. There's a whole bunch of devices out on the market, from Vuzix Blade and M300 to the ODG R7/8/9 to the Realwear HMT-1. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. What's your use case for them?
- crypto-jeronimo 8y ago
  No particular use case in mind yet, aside from exploratory development.
  - kolencherry 8y ago
    Gotcha. Yeah, the dev kits on some of those are a bit pricey (2k and up). Coming from an industrial use-case, I personally really liked the Realwear HMT-1 — it performs like a champ, is surprisingly comfortable, is available as intrinsically safe, and has an easy-to-work-with team behind the scenes. Would strongly consider skipping Glass EE, depending on what you want to do.
oflannabhra 8y ago
As others have said, lots of manufacturers have far surpassed Google Glasses by now. The leaders, at least in the industrial space are (in no particular order): 1. Microsoft HoloLens - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/hololens/buy https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/hololens/buy 2. Vuzix Blade (also m300) - https://www.vuzix.com/products/blade-smart-glasses https://www.vuzix.com/products/blade-smart-glasses 3. ODG R7 - https://www.osterhoutgroup.com/r-7-smartglasses https://www.osterhoutgroup.com/r-7-smartglasses 4. Google Glass EE - https://www.x.company/glass/contact/ https://www.x.company/glass/contact/ 5. DAQRI - https://shop.daqri.com https://shop.daqri.com
- sk1pper 8y ago
  HoloLens 2 is supposed to release sometime this year, and they’re saying it’ll be way cheaper than the current version.
- IshKebab 8y ago
  I don't know about the others, but you can't really say that HoloLens has "surpassed" Glass, because they're very different products. Still, HoloLens works much much better than Glass.
whywhywhywhy 8y ago
If you're thinking AR (Glass wasn't AR really) then Leap are apparently open sourcing their development rig http://blog.leapmotion.com/north-star-open-source/ http://blog.leapmotion.com/north-star-open-source/ Can't vouch for it because I haven't dug in yet.
- cmsimike 8y ago
  I have been waiting for them to release this!
m0ther 8y ago
I picked up a Brother AirScouter 300C for similar purposes (assuming you're looking for a display that goes on your face). BHPhoto sells them. HDMI, 720P, USB powered, effective birth control.
cmsimike 8y ago
I have been putting together my own google glass as a side project at home for a while now. At the time, I didn't look much into AR displays, but I did order a VuFine: https://www.vufine.com/ https://www.vufine.com/ - a head mounted 720p screen. This is coupled to a raspberry pi + pijuice UPS This, coupled with a raspi night vision camera attached to my head, fakes "AR" since I can see in the vufine what the camera sees (though AR was not really the goal for this version, but eventually). I am using SDL to render items on top of the video feed (for instance, using opencv to find and put boxes around faces). Additionally, I want to get a range sensor and place that looking behind me, and render something in the display to give me an idea of what items are behind me, and how close. I am thinking about rendering a circle from metal gear solid 4 [0] to give me an impression of where things are behind me, and how close they are (greater amplitude to indicate how close something is) I definitely want to get an AR setup, as I feel like that would be best. I will check out what options are link in this thread. [0] https://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/52/51310/ps3_mgs4_118.1.jpg https://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/52/51310/ps3_mgs4_118...
- cmsimike 8y ago
  I have also considered building OpenSimpleLidar [0] and putting that on top of my head (I also use snips.ai on my ar build to control things by voice, so i have [1] this headset, which allows me to attach things to the top of it) so that I can generate real time images of my environment, and have it display a map, like in a video game, with my location. I haven't got to that part yet - too many other projects :( [0] https://github.com/iliasam/OpenSimpleLidar/ https://github.com/iliasam/OpenSimpleLidar/ [1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CQ8CB8W/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CQ8CB8W/ref=oh_aui_sear...
  - crypto-jeronimo 8y ago
    Could you post some screenshots of your system in action, please?

netsec_burn 8y ago

Look into getting a Vuzix Blade. It ships in 4-6 weeks for a devkit.

Schumer 8y ago

Hololens, talk to ms

deepeshpandey 8y ago

I have been doing some development on smart glasses. You have many choices like Ora which you can buy from there portal, vuzix. Especially, google glass can be bought from https://www.streye.com/ https://www.streye.com/.

douglaswlance 8y ago

Google Glass is just a tiny notification window. It's not what 99% of people think it is. I'm not sure where the communication broke down, but it seems a ton of people heard about Google Glass and thought it was going to be an AR headset that they'd wear all the time. It's just not that useful. It's worse than mounting an Apple Watch to your head.

ceejayoz 8y ago
Google's marketing videos showed things like a full Google Map for directions (example: https://youtu.be/ErpNpR3XYUw?t=45s https://youtu.be/ErpNpR3XYUw?t=45s). I'm not surprised people got confused.
- crypto-jeronimo 8y ago
  Yes, my point, precisely. Thank you.
crypto-jeronimo 8y ago
Thanks for your reply. I believe it must've been from their promo video. I'm happy that the question came across correctly and the people who have responded so far took this into consideration and glossed over what you've pointed out (if it's indeed the case).
ransom1538 8y ago
"Google Glass is just a tiny notification window." Birth control for your face. I think is where it broke down. Edit: I know, I know.... you worked on the project and you need to down vote.
- geoah 8y ago
  Is it really any different to people walking around with the first Windows CE ipaq and htc phones, and huge nokia communicator querty flip ones literally more than 20 years ago? I applaud Microsoft, Google, and anyone who tries to invent part of our future, even if they fail. Microsoft's tablet windows were amazing, they were bulky and ux was pretty bad, but at least they tried. And Google did the same with Glass. Constructive criticism is always welcome and results in discussions that might help people who are or will be driving similar technologies. There is really no reason to call it "birth control for your face".
  - lawlessone 8y ago
    Nobody strapped their ipaq to their face.
    - LyndsySimon 8y ago
      I still have my iPad somewhere. If they'd made a VR mount for it I'd have absolutely had it strapped to my face.
- lordCarbonFiber 8y ago
  You seem like the kind of person that called kids with glasses "4-eyes" in elementary school. Glass didn't look that bad, calm down. Glass failed because it was a pain in the ass to develop for, hard to store/take off (no hinges), and weak tech (battery, video processing, voice control).
  - mey 8y ago
    Also expensive
lordCarbonFiber 8y ago
Glass is the logical zenith of the smart watch. Having to give up a hand to look at your wrist almost defeats the purpose of having the mirrored notifications. It's not the AR revolution the media hyped it up to be, but I'd bet money that's where wearables go as the tech gets better and people forget about the whole affair.

_pmf_ 8y ago

TI Pico DLP[0] is a nice platform for projectors at small scale. [0] http://www.ti.com/dlp-chip/display-and-projection/pico-chipsets/getting-started.html http://www.ti.com/dlp-chip/display-and-projection/pico-chips...

jesse_m 8y ago
I've been looking at this too bit where do you source the wave guides?
- moftz 8y ago
  I never realized optical wave guides were a thing but I guess fiber optics are a medium that sort of mimics how RF wave guides work.

greggman 8y ago

you can make a cheap Pepper's ghost periscope setup for any smartphone. example http://ibelieveinghost.com/ http://ibelieveinghost.com/

deleted 8y ago
[deleted]
zeeed 8y ago
the pre-order link leads to a dead indiegogo project: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ghost-best-affordable-augmented-reality-headset-youtube-apps#/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ghost-best-affordable-aug... do you have other examples or references to news about the ghost project?
- greggman 8y ago
  I don't but I see people making their own at VR/AR meetups here one though it's not a periscope which is important as you need the phone's camera to face forward https://vrscout.com/projects/diy-ar-device-hololens/ https://vrscout.com/projects/diy-ar-device-hololens/ here's some other thing https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/18/15948700/mira-prism-iphone-augmented-reality-headset-hands-on-announce https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/18/15948700/mira-prism-iphon...

didip 8y ago

What you really want is something like this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bnfwClgheF0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bnfwClgheF0 Too bad Intel shut that department down.

nickthegreek 8y ago

I have a pair of Google Glass that I am willing to sell if you are interested.

kolencherry 8y ago

I used to run a startup in this space. There's a whole bunch of devices out on the market, from Vuzix Blade and M300 to the ODG R7/8/9 to the Realwear HMT-1. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. What's your use case for them?

crypto-jeronimo 8y ago
No particular use case in mind yet, aside from exploratory development.
- kolencherry 8y ago
  Gotcha. Yeah, the dev kits on some of those are a bit pricey (2k and up). Coming from an industrial use-case, I personally really liked the Realwear HMT-1 — it performs like a champ, is surprisingly comfortable, is available as intrinsically safe, and has an easy-to-work-with team behind the scenes. Would strongly consider skipping Glass EE, depending on what you want to do.

oflannabhra 8y ago

As others have said, lots of manufacturers have far surpassed Google Glasses by now. The leaders, at least in the industrial space are (in no particular order): 1. Microsoft HoloLens - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/hololens/buy https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/hololens/buy 2. Vuzix Blade (also m300) - https://www.vuzix.com/products/blade-smart-glasses https://www.vuzix.com/products/blade-smart-glasses 3. ODG R7 - https://www.osterhoutgroup.com/r-7-smartglasses https://www.osterhoutgroup.com/r-7-smartglasses 4. Google Glass EE - https://www.x.company/glass/contact/ https://www.x.company/glass/contact/ 5. DAQRI - https://shop.daqri.com https://shop.daqri.com

sk1pper 8y ago
HoloLens 2 is supposed to release sometime this year, and they’re saying it’ll be way cheaper than the current version.
IshKebab 8y ago
I don't know about the others, but you can't really say that HoloLens has "surpassed" Glass, because they're very different products. Still, HoloLens works much much better than Glass.

whywhywhywhy 8y ago

If you're thinking AR (Glass wasn't AR really) then Leap are apparently open sourcing their development rig http://blog.leapmotion.com/north-star-open-source/ http://blog.leapmotion.com/north-star-open-source/ Can't vouch for it because I haven't dug in yet.

cmsimike 8y ago
I have been waiting for them to release this!

m0ther 8y ago

I picked up a Brother AirScouter 300C for similar purposes (assuming you're looking for a display that goes on your face). BHPhoto sells them. HDMI, 720P, USB powered, effective birth control.

cmsimike 8y ago

I have been putting together my own google glass as a side project at home for a while now. At the time, I didn't look much into AR displays, but I did order a VuFine: https://www.vufine.com/ https://www.vufine.com/ - a head mounted 720p screen. This is coupled to a raspberry pi + pijuice UPS This, coupled with a raspi night vision camera attached to my head, fakes "AR" since I can see in the vufine what the camera sees (though AR was not really the goal for this version, but eventually). I am using SDL to render items on top of the video feed (for instance, using opencv to find and put boxes around faces). Additionally, I want to get a range sensor and place that looking behind me, and render something in the display to give me an idea of what items are behind me, and how close. I am thinking about rendering a circle from metal gear solid 4 [0] to give me an impression of where things are behind me, and how close they are (greater amplitude to indicate how close something is) I definitely want to get an AR setup, as I feel like that would be best. I will check out what options are link in this thread. [0] https://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/52/51310/ps3_mgs4_118.1.jpg https://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/52/51310/ps3_mgs4_118...

cmsimike 8y ago
I have also considered building OpenSimpleLidar [0] and putting that on top of my head (I also use snips.ai on my ar build to control things by voice, so i have [1] this headset, which allows me to attach things to the top of it) so that I can generate real time images of my environment, and have it display a map, like in a video game, with my location. I haven't got to that part yet - too many other projects :( [0] https://github.com/iliasam/OpenSimpleLidar/ https://github.com/iliasam/OpenSimpleLidar/ [1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CQ8CB8W/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CQ8CB8W/ref=oh_aui_sear...
- crypto-jeronimo 8y ago
  Could you post some screenshots of your system in action, please?