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Trolls, stalkers, doxers, etc. are a serious problem. A recent example that comes to mind: https://www.patreon.com/posts/18049311 https://www.patreon.com/posts
by CiPHPerCoder 8y ago
Trolls, stalkers, doxers, etc. are a serious problem.
A recent example that comes to mind: https://www.patreon.com/posts/18049311 https://www.patreon.com/posts/18049311
This post raises a lot of questions that I don't have a good answer to.
- beaconstudios 8y agoIt's worrying that while reading the article I was nodding along thinking "yep, sounds like 4chan" and it turned out to be tumblr. When both extremes of the political spectrum have groups of stalkers and trolls trying to ruin people's lives for committing some imaginary sin, you know things are screwed.
- astrodust 8y agoIt's not extremes of the political spectrum, but extremes of behaviour. If this is Kiwi Farms, though... https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms
- beaconstudios 8y agothe two seem to have a form of magnetism.
- astrodust 8y agoIt's not magnetism, it's attractiveness to abusive people. Some people don't really care what cause they get behind so long as they get to bully people and raise hell. They'd be anarchists, leftists, alt-right, whatever, so long as they get to beat up people and set things on fire. This is not to say both political extremes are identical, but that certain people will latch on to any group that will tolerate their behaviour.
- beaconstudios 8y agoabsolutely, that's IMO the nugget of truth nested within horseshoe theory.
- tomrod 8y agoThe internet is a dark place in some corners.
- astrodust 8y agoThose dark corners need a healthy dose of napalm.
- joe_the_user 8y agoEdit: You are misread the post (and I didn't quite read it in enough detail myself). The post claims, Kiwi Farms, large alt-right-influence forum, is manipulating progressives to attack this person. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms
- beaconstudios 8y agoThe story itself claims tumblr users (and more generally, to quote, "young progressives") were behind the stalking, unless I misread. [edit] sounds like kiwifarms is a 4chan-type trolling/alt-right site and simply got tumblr to also attack these poor folks by making up stories about them being animal abusers.
- tedajax 8y agoYes you misread
- beaconstudios 8y agowhat am I misunderstanding from this? "Still, this should be mundane. People say a wrong thing on the Internet. It happens. The trouble is, young "progressives" at the moment are falling all over themselves to be part of an expulsion — to root out and help exile some secret predator hiding in plain sight. So if you have a target whose life you want to ruin for funsies, all you need to do is dig through their history for some circumstantial evidence, concoct a vaguely related story that makes them sound horrible, and circulate it in a callout post. The problem, then, is not that someone pulled a story about Styx out of their ass. The problem is that Kiwi Farms is a well-oiled machine for producing hundreds of such stories, and the one about Styx is now listed on a Tumblr somewhere under a heading like "animal abuse", calling me a "known literal animal abuser". Because someone can't read Wikipedia." Sounds like someone found these stories, misinterpreted them (wilfully or not) to sound like abuse, then got tumblr all riled up to harass them. I suppose the initiator wasn't necessarily from that space, but it certainly seems like tumblr/progressives are taking part in the harassment.