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What can EU potentially do to you? I have no plans to comply with my website that gets only 5% traffic from EU. I would rather block access to those users based

What can EU potentially do to you? I have no plans to comply with my website that gets only 5% traffic from EU. I would rather block access to those users based on trade off.

bmer 8y ago
I hope a Firefox extension comes out to automatically block visiting any website that blocks EU users in general, regardless of whether you are in the EU. I would use it.
- volkl48 8y ago
  If you have negligible EU revenue and no intentions of changing that, it makes no sense to expend any effort on complying with GDPR. Blocking EU users is a smart business choice to avoid any possible legal issues and far easier than compliance.
  - rickycook 8y ago
    fine; but it’s also a red flag for companies that do some pretty terrible things with your data... id prefer not to use a service that gives off those red flags than to chance it. we all have choices, and if a company chooses to represent itself in a shady looking way, i’ll choose to take my business elsewhere.
    - woolvalley 8y ago
      Or it means... they are a small business with no EU customers.
      - icebraining 8y ago
        Those are not in the scope of the GDPR anyway, as per Recital 23.
  - m-localhost 8y ago
    What if a EU sitizen uses a VPN to use a non GDPR conform service? What's with the California Online Privacy Protection Act? You have to comply to that. And from there it's not such a big step to comply to GDPR. Not? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Privacy_Protection_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Privacy_Protection_Act Edit: Apprently, there is a new one on its way: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/06/28/how-tough-new-california-law-protect-internet-privacy/744171002/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/06/28/ho...
- pkaye 8y ago
  Should they also include any websites that are censored by China?
  - bmer 8y ago
    Yes, as websites are censored in China due to laws meant to protect consumers from the collection of personal information. I want some of that corrupt, totalitarian, and unjust "protection" too! People like me are the sort who think about Stalin and sigh: "oh, things were so good back then!". That's why we love regulation.
- Karishma1234 8y ago
  I am unable to see the point of such extension. Why would it matter to you as a user whether the service is available in EU or not ? It is like penalising a website for being complaint with the law. (Not serving EU users is a cheaper alternative for non-EU focused websites).
- Karishma1234 8y ago
  But I recommend to you that get a list of websites that are censored in China and stop using them. Start with Facebook and Google.
jake_the_third 8y ago
> What can EU potentially do to you? I expect it's more or less the same thing that the US can do to you: Depends on what assets you have now (or may have later) in the EU, whether you ever plan to visit the EU, and what treaties are ratified now (or later, been bitten by this one) by the US and EU countries. Ignoring the laws of foreign countries is possible if you're willing to put in the resources, it's much cheaper and less risky just to comply. The general idea of being forced (literally or practically) to comply with the regulations of other governments is completely fucked up in my personal opinion[1], but until your government decides to do something about it, there's not much you can do. At least, you get the option to expand in a foreign county market as a consolation prize. In the end, this is just a comment on some internet board. I'd recommend asking a lawyer that specializes in these matters if you really want to know about the risks involved. 1: I'll state that I'm not against the GDPR in general and think it's introduction is long, long overdue. What I object to is having some foreign entity I have no connection to forcing me to comply to their will. That's a can of worms governments will regret opening.
- Karishma1234 8y ago
  Thanks. I operate the business from India and Indian government is unlikely to play with EU rules. Yes, hiring a lawyer is the correct thing to do but given my business does not make enough money from EU users I think it best to ask my EU users to use a VPN.
downandout 8y ago
Recital 23 [1] of the GDPR exempts you from it anyway. Unless you “envisage” serving EU users/customers, it doesn’t apply to you (even if you happen to have some incidental EU users). [1] http://www.privacy-regulation.eu/en/recital-23-GDPR.htm http://www.privacy-regulation.eu/en/recital-23-GDPR.htm

What can EU potentially do to you? I have no plans to comply with my website that gets only 5% traffic from EU. I would rather block access to those users based on trade off.

bmer 8y ago

I hope a Firefox extension comes out to automatically block visiting any website that blocks EU users in general, regardless of whether you are in the EU. I would use it.

volkl48 8y ago
If you have negligible EU revenue and no intentions of changing that, it makes no sense to expend any effort on complying with GDPR. Blocking EU users is a smart business choice to avoid any possible legal issues and far easier than compliance.
- rickycook 8y ago
  fine; but it’s also a red flag for companies that do some pretty terrible things with your data... id prefer not to use a service that gives off those red flags than to chance it. we all have choices, and if a company chooses to represent itself in a shady looking way, i’ll choose to take my business elsewhere.
  - woolvalley 8y ago
    Or it means... they are a small business with no EU customers.
    - icebraining 8y ago
      Those are not in the scope of the GDPR anyway, as per Recital 23.
- m-localhost 8y ago
  What if a EU sitizen uses a VPN to use a non GDPR conform service? What's with the California Online Privacy Protection Act? You have to comply to that. And from there it's not such a big step to comply to GDPR. Not? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Privacy_Protection_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Privacy_Protection_Act Edit: Apprently, there is a new one on its way: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/06/28/how-tough-new-california-law-protect-internet-privacy/744171002/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/06/28/ho...
pkaye 8y ago
Should they also include any websites that are censored by China?
- bmer 8y ago
  Yes, as websites are censored in China due to laws meant to protect consumers from the collection of personal information. I want some of that corrupt, totalitarian, and unjust "protection" too! People like me are the sort who think about Stalin and sigh: "oh, things were so good back then!". That's why we love regulation.
Karishma1234 8y ago
I am unable to see the point of such extension. Why would it matter to you as a user whether the service is available in EU or not ? It is like penalising a website for being complaint with the law. (Not serving EU users is a cheaper alternative for non-EU focused websites).
Karishma1234 8y ago
But I recommend to you that get a list of websites that are censored in China and stop using them. Start with Facebook and Google.

jake_the_third 8y ago

> What can EU potentially do to you? I expect it's more or less the same thing that the US can do to you: Depends on what assets you have now (or may have later) in the EU, whether you ever plan to visit the EU, and what treaties are ratified now (or later, been bitten by this one) by the US and EU countries. Ignoring the laws of foreign countries is possible if you're willing to put in the resources, it's much cheaper and less risky just to comply. The general idea of being forced (literally or practically) to comply with the regulations of other governments is completely fucked up in my personal opinion[1], but until your government decides to do something about it, there's not much you can do. At least, you get the option to expand in a foreign county market as a consolation prize. In the end, this is just a comment on some internet board. I'd recommend asking a lawyer that specializes in these matters if you really want to know about the risks involved. 1: I'll state that I'm not against the GDPR in general and think it's introduction is long, long overdue. What I object to is having some foreign entity I have no connection to forcing me to comply to their will. That's a can of worms governments will regret opening.

Karishma1234 8y ago
Thanks. I operate the business from India and Indian government is unlikely to play with EU rules. Yes, hiring a lawyer is the correct thing to do but given my business does not make enough money from EU users I think it best to ask my EU users to use a VPN.

downandout 8y ago

Recital 23 [1] of the GDPR exempts you from it anyway. Unless you “envisage” serving EU users/customers, it doesn’t apply to you (even if you happen to have some incidental EU users). [1] http://www.privacy-regulation.eu/en/recital-23-GDPR.htm http://www.privacy-regulation.eu/en/recital-23-GDPR.htm