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While I see your point about product mentality, and agree to a large extent, I am not sure it applies to ActivityPub. Its like saying email needed to be product
by ixxie 8y ago
While I see your point about product mentality, and agree to a large extent, I am not sure it applies to ActivityPub. Its like saying email needed to be productized; it didn't, we just needed productized implementations of email servers and clients to get the network going.
- albertgoeswoof 8y agoExactly- email would be nothing without outlook and gmail, http might have fallen without netscape. We need products on ActivityPub that beat real products
- johnchristopher 8y agoEmail was there before outlook and Gmail and will still be long after Gmail sunsets it and Microsoft rebrands outlook to something like "Microsoft xbox delayed chat system".
- lilbobbytables 8y agoAnd it was productized before then. AOL being a huge one ("You've got mail"), and Hotmail also coming to mind.
- _emacsomancer_ 8y agoAnd email was around long before AOL or Hotmail.
- adventured 8y agoAnd nobody used it, relatively speaking vs the extraordinary scale that those email products made possible later. Hotmail had more users after 18 months than the total history of all email services on earth combined for the first two decades of email. If email was still as annoying to use as it was pre AOL & Hotmail, the general public still wouldn't be using it today.
- toadworrier 8y agoHow many people used any internet technology before there was even in Internet? But some people did use email.
- johnchristopher 8y agoGreat point. Webmail is a product that was massively adopted compared to regular clients.
- _emacsomancer_ 8y agoPerhaps, but no particular web implementation of email really stands out. (You might say Gmail, Gmail is really comparatively recent.) So a web interface on email push adoption further.
- hsienmaneja 8y agoIt might be more accurate to say that a social standard would need to support productized client evolutions that outlook and others provided along the way of email’s evolutionary path.
- incompatible 8y agoThe web was already doing fine with Mosaic, although that was also proprietary. Netscape was just the better-funded and flashier version.
- volaski 8y agoYou're missing the point. Like you said, Mosaic was ALREADY a great product, compared to the nerdy terminal browsers without embedded media, etc. OP's point is not whether netscape or mosaic is better, but that the graphical web browser was what brought the web mainstream. Doesn't matter if it's mosaic or netscape (or several other graphical ui browser competitors that existed during that time)