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Adobe managed to get lock-in, nothing more. There's no loyalty there. I loved PS3, I loved PS7. I loathe CS1-5. I'm trapped there, and I know I'm not alone in t

Adobe managed to get lock-in, nothing more. There's no loyalty there. I loved PS3, I loved PS7. I loathe CS1-5. I'm trapped there, and I know I'm not alone in that sentiment. As soon as someone comes along able to do most of what I need to to design UI in Photoshop, I'm gone. An app called Opacity is really close – in many ways it's better than Photoshop, chiefly because they care about how I'll use it. Once they iron out some performance issues with vector objects, I'm there.

oneplusone 16y ago
I don't know. I love Photoshop. My personal opinion here, but I think it is an incredibly well designed piece of software. Maybe not the Mac version, but the PC version is just well thought out. I just don't see anything that could possibly make me want to switch.
- danilocampos 16y ago
  It's little things. Workflow: Opacity lets me define factories to quickly generate images as I iterate a design. They're like a combo of slices and save for web in PS. Using factories is infinitely faster than cumbersome layer comps, slice selections and export scripts. Making things polished: Opacity lets me easily snap to whole pixels, instead of sub-pixel horseshit that makes everything look blurry. Using the pen tool in Opacity gives me smart, dynamic guides to help me align my anchor points. "Layer styles:" Instead of confining me to one of every kind of layer style and forcing me into a specific compositing order for each, Opacity lets me do whatever I need to, in whatever order, as often as I want. It's liberating and time saving, especially when you're making UI elements. The fact that it doesn't take a long time to launch is also nice. Photoshop is bloaty and cluttered. There's no focus there and I'm pretty sure no one at Adobe is really giving any thought to how I will use their software. They're working up feature lists, and not much more than that. (For those interested, here's Opacity, too: http://likethought.com/opacity/ http://likethought.com/opacity/)
- joe_the_user 16y ago
  Why? What, in particular, is well designed about Photoshop? What alternatives have you looked at? My memory of it is that the features were haphazardly organized, all of operations required messing with horrible little mousy controls and it was obscure how to do anything beside spray paint on the image.
joe_the_user 16y ago
As soon as someone comes along able to do most of what I need to to design UI in Photoshop, I'm gone. You mean when someone comes along with an application with the required features, perhaps? (see above) As a pure amateur, I have found Corel Potopaint and Corel Draw infinitely more pleasant than anything Adobe does. But I also hear that they don't have the really specific features professionals need ("trapping" and other stuff I don't have a clue about).
- danilocampos 16y ago
  That's just the thing, Photoshop actually has fewer features that matter to me than my favored image editor, Opacity. Tellingly, though, those features are centered around making the user experience easy and frictionless. (I went on and on about Opacity in another thread, it was quite a love story.) As soon as Opacity's vector performance is on par with Photoshop, I'm out!

oneplusone 16y ago

I don't know. I love Photoshop. My personal opinion here, but I think it is an incredibly well designed piece of software. Maybe not the Mac version, but the PC version is just well thought out. I just don't see anything that could possibly make me want to switch.

danilocampos 16y ago
It's little things. Workflow: Opacity lets me define factories to quickly generate images as I iterate a design. They're like a combo of slices and save for web in PS. Using factories is infinitely faster than cumbersome layer comps, slice selections and export scripts. Making things polished: Opacity lets me easily snap to whole pixels, instead of sub-pixel horseshit that makes everything look blurry. Using the pen tool in Opacity gives me smart, dynamic guides to help me align my anchor points. "Layer styles:" Instead of confining me to one of every kind of layer style and forcing me into a specific compositing order for each, Opacity lets me do whatever I need to, in whatever order, as often as I want. It's liberating and time saving, especially when you're making UI elements. The fact that it doesn't take a long time to launch is also nice. Photoshop is bloaty and cluttered. There's no focus there and I'm pretty sure no one at Adobe is really giving any thought to how I will use their software. They're working up feature lists, and not much more than that. (For those interested, here's Opacity, too: http://likethought.com/opacity/ http://likethought.com/opacity/)
joe_the_user 16y ago
Why? What, in particular, is well designed about Photoshop? What alternatives have you looked at? My memory of it is that the features were haphazardly organized, all of operations required messing with horrible little mousy controls and it was obscure how to do anything beside spray paint on the image.

joe_the_user 16y ago

As soon as someone comes along able to do most of what I need to to design UI in Photoshop, I'm gone. You mean when someone comes along with an application with the required features, perhaps? (see above) As a pure amateur, I have found Corel Potopaint and Corel Draw infinitely more pleasant than anything Adobe does. But I also hear that they don't have the really specific features professionals need ("trapping" and other stuff I don't have a clue about).

danilocampos 16y ago
That's just the thing, Photoshop actually has fewer features that matter to me than my favored image editor, Opacity. Tellingly, though, those features are centered around making the user experience easy and frictionless. (I went on and on about Opacity in another thread, it was quite a love story.) As soon as Opacity's vector performance is on par with Photoshop, I'm out!