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> They voted to approve the controversial Article 13, which critics warn could put an end to memes, remixes and other user-generated content. This won’t put an

by frisco 8y ago

> They voted to approve the controversial Article 13, which critics warn could put an end to memes, remixes and other user-generated content. This won’t put an end to memes. It might encourage innovation around decentralization, though. It won’t end the internet, but given all of the stuff like this happening recently, it might be time for the internet to evolve. The technologies have been around for a while as a curiosity, and now there might be the market need.

sebst 8y ago
I hope you're right on this. Decentralization is what the internet was actually build for. Centralization, on the other side, brought the web to less technical people and thus scaled so massively. Can technical literacy which certainly increased (in some ways) lead to a new era of decentralization or will that be the fatal end of a symbolic "Eternal September"?
- orwin 8y ago
  I was kinda skeptic about federation at first (mastodon, GNU.social etc), but i've installed and tested a nextcloud platform for one of my client and i've been really impressed so far. It's clunky, a bit bloated (for me, TUI > GUI for 90% of apps, so take it with a grain of salt) and have an average documentation (a pretty good documentation for a free software /s). But despite that, once installed successfully, it is better than most free cloud services i have used imo, except maybe gDrive (integration with email, android calendar and gSuite is hard to beat). If other federated services can see light, and if people start to care about it, internet will be a better place i think (sightly related: is lichess federated too? I know you can host a server yourself, but i'm not sure if it's true).
  - sebst 8y ago
    A long way to go: Have a professional install nextcloud for you vs. sign up at dropbox. And that's basically just for hoarding private files. The network effect makes it even worse: Why should I use XYZ if all my friends are on Facebook/WhatsApp/WhatsOEver? Decentralized infrastructure (as in email, usenet, irc, ...) needs to have a bigger popularity than every walled garden. Then, the internet will become "a better place" rather than "there is a better niche for hacker kind of people on the net"
zenkat 8y ago
This will encourage centralization to the few big services that can afford to build a Content ID system for recognizing copyrighted content. It will cement the position of big players like Facebook and YouTube, and squash any small startup that might try to compete with them.
RankingMember 8y ago
It's situations like these that bring into sharp relief the necessity of decentralization and encryption. Government leaders at large have proven time and time again that their level of knowledge should, in any rational world, preclude them from making legislation concerning it, particularly when so much of legislation in general is spurred by special interests stuffing money into their pockets.

by frisco 8y ago

sebst 8y ago

I hope you're right on this. Decentralization is what the internet was actually build for. Centralization, on the other side, brought the web to less technical people and thus scaled so massively. Can technical literacy which certainly increased (in some ways) lead to a new era of decentralization or will that be the fatal end of a symbolic "Eternal September"?

orwin 8y ago
I was kinda skeptic about federation at first (mastodon, GNU.social etc), but i've installed and tested a nextcloud platform for one of my client and i've been really impressed so far. It's clunky, a bit bloated (for me, TUI > GUI for 90% of apps, so take it with a grain of salt) and have an average documentation (a pretty good documentation for a free software /s). But despite that, once installed successfully, it is better than most free cloud services i have used imo, except maybe gDrive (integration with email, android calendar and gSuite is hard to beat). If other federated services can see light, and if people start to care about it, internet will be a better place i think (sightly related: is lichess federated too? I know you can host a server yourself, but i'm not sure if it's true).
- sebst 8y ago
  A long way to go: Have a professional install nextcloud for you vs. sign up at dropbox. And that's basically just for hoarding private files. The network effect makes it even worse: Why should I use XYZ if all my friends are on Facebook/WhatsApp/WhatsOEver? Decentralized infrastructure (as in email, usenet, irc, ...) needs to have a bigger popularity than every walled garden. Then, the internet will become "a better place" rather than "there is a better niche for hacker kind of people on the net"

zenkat 8y ago

This will encourage centralization to the few big services that can afford to build a Content ID system for recognizing copyrighted content. It will cement the position of big players like Facebook and YouTube, and squash any small startup that might try to compete with them.

RankingMember 8y ago

It's situations like these that bring into sharp relief the necessity of decentralization and encryption. Government leaders at large have proven time and time again that their level of knowledge should, in any rational world, preclude them from making legislation concerning it, particularly when so much of legislation in general is spurred by special interests stuffing money into their pockets.