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Am I the only one who thinks it would be better if Blender uploaded directly to archive.org or archive.is? As much as it's interesting on a technical level, th
by Endy 8y ago
Am I the only one who thinks it would be better if Blender uploaded directly to archive.org or archive.is? As much as it's interesting on a technical level, the fact that PeerTube is by nature decentralized and self-hosted is going to reduce Blender's overall visibility (which is what I think Alphabet/Google wants).
Whether Alphabet is still making any money off SketchUp, or whether one of the 3D companies is paying them something, I think this move was intentionally targeted on their part. And unfortunately, like most of the things that have happened ever since Google completely dropped the first word from "Don't Be Evil", I'm terrified that they're going to win.
- codelord 8y agoWhat is terrifying about this? Why should Google pay for hosting and distributing your video online forever without making any money? How's that "evil"?
- bordercases 8y agoMonopoly of convenience and loyalty capture There's no good reason why, but that's why we try to regulate monopolies
- notroot 8y agoThere are a lot of good reasons why monopolies should be regulated.
- bordercases 8y agoI meant why Google should pay for hosting free stuff
- Krasnol 8y agoYou are absolutely right! Google has been suffering under all this user generated content dragging even more visitors to their already struggling hosting infrastructure for too long! It's time for relief! Let's move the burden of user generated content away and let others suffer! Free Google!
- notroot 8y ago'codelord:working on ml @google' haha. using accrued inertia/loyalty to bully/force `mit ocw` and `blender` to adopt more convenient terms for the company is, at minimum, a dick move. but i get it, you got some stock and you gotta protect that bottom line.
- bad_user 8y agoBecause they allowed it until now and it's been years since. Changing their policies now hurts non-profit organizations like the Blender Foundation and is in effect a bait and switch. Google is using at this point its monopoly to coerce their partners and users into accepting whatever the heck they want. Personally I don't understand them. This is clearly about a very popular channel that is bringing them eyeballs. I also have no sympathy for their need to monetize — several years back we had a protest in my country against a gold mining company and the YouTube videos made by protesters where preceded by ads of the mining company, ads which were lying and that couldn't be reported for that. Ads on YouTube are dangerous as they aren't just about products or services, but about social and political issues too and whomever has the bucks to pay wins more attention. As an author, having the ability to disable ads for certain videos is common sense. --- Also, Google, I would have registered for YouTube Red to pay cash for an ad free experience, but you haven't made it available in my country yet and I've been waiting for a long time.
- Endy 8y ago>Also, Google, I would have registered for YouTube Red to pay cash for an ad free experience, but you haven't made it available in my country yet and I've been waiting for a long time. Pay them for no ads? Nope, that's why I have Disconnect, Ghostery, uBlock Origin, and some userscripts enabled along with a fairly extensive HOSTS file.
- akerro 8y agoHmmm... If they only didn't track us on every mouse move, every click, every video and every recommendation. That's an exchange, I'm a product for using their product.
- arendtio 8y agoThe evil part is that they are unclear about their conditions for the hosting. If all that would be part of their official 'Terms and Conditions' nobody would complain.
- codelord 8y agoIf I didn't know any better I'd think everyone who's commenting on hackernews is running a charity and building products and giving it to the users for free at a loss.
- Martus 8y agoIf I didn't know any better I'd think your didn't even read the comments and your sucking up to your employer and greed have clouded your perception of reality. You should have known that people won't buy your "poor google is dying under the load of Blender videos" approach. Now that you're faced with the facts you try to dramatize the situation even more. I guess the recruiting standards at google went down rapidly or are you the outcome of this recently abolished recruiting strategy?
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- e12e 8y agoAs much as I'm against corporate power in general, and worried about Google in particular : I very much doubt that this is an editorial move from youtubr: it seems much more likely that this is automated monetization machinery run amok. I mean, we're talking about the company that's drowning its users in chat applications/protocols. That said, the i agree that archive.org or Wikimedia might be good ways to publish. Still, much like blender's other "big projects" (make film, make game etc) - this move potentially helps build out a working distributed video system.
- colordrops 8y agoYou don't seem to have read the link. There were humans in the loop.
- e12e 8y agoSure; a semi-automated monetization machinery run amok, then. But the fact that sales drones at Google are handed broken procedures and ordered to chase forced monitization at cross-purposes of certain prominent users - still doesn't mean there's any editorializing working against the Blender foundation in order to further sketchup. I'm sure Google management would be thrilled if they were able to organize half such a conspiracy to straighten out their own chat apps.
- twelvechairs 8y agoSketchUp is no longer Google/Alphabet owned. It was sold to Trimble (a GPS/Geospatial company)
- Endy 8y agoUnfortunately, I have neither the resources nor the energy to do a real deep dive into Trimble and their relationship with Alphabet. Even if they don't own that particular piece of software, what evidence is there that it's not bringing Alphabet money?