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To be honest, that sounds like it would be way more stressful than just working.

by rossdavidh 8y ago

callesgg 8y ago
And soul crushing.
- tw1010 8y ago
  Only if you let your soul be immovably coupled to a fragile and exogenous variable like your job.
  - deleted 8y ago
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  - xab9 8y ago
    You are sitting on your ass (conidering you are a dev) for eight friggin hours. If you include commuting, lunch break and the time you sleep, this is more time than you can spend with your family, hobbies, recreation etc. You don't need to like or "couple your soul" to your job, it's part of your life and life shouldn't suck because there is a very good chance that there isn't another one.
  - ibeckermayer 8y ago
    If your soul isn’t in some sense coupled to the thing you spend most of your time doing, I simply do not understand what you tie your identity to...
- PakG1 8y ago
  If you have no scruples about getting free money, you can use the time to do whatever the heck you want. If you want to feel like you earned the money or you're not allowed to do anything outside of your scope, then yes, it's probably soul crushing.
  - pc86 8y ago
    If you do anything using company resources on company time, they own it. Anything you create during that time, the company owns. Do you really want to do something on the side and have the company legally own all the IP to it?
    - probably_wrong 8y ago
      I don't think the company would be able to take knowledge out of my head, though. Paid, uninterrupted training for anything I want? Sign me up!
      - RugnirViking 8y ago
        I was thinking about this - going down to a random employee and over a couple weeks trying to get them to let me help them out with their job. Learning over a couple weeks the practical principles of say 3d modelling, Marketing, etc. Sounds like something I would be down for. I guess at the end of it you'd end up being relatively popular in the office too if you occasionally help out where teams are struggling.
soperj 8y ago
Only if you actually just browse baseball scores and play snake. Think about what kind of open source contributions you could make in this job.
- flukus 8y ago
  > Think about what kind of open source contributions you could make in this job Probably nothing important due to copyright issues, company time + company resources means the company owns the work. I do wonder if this is the origin of a lot of fun projects like "HN command line client" though.
  - xab9 8y ago
    Not "nothing important", but nothing at all. All my work contracts around here clearly stated that what you write in your worktime is the company's intellectual property. It doesn't matter that you are not writing a thing.
    - Tade0 8y ago
      Ok, but that's a loyal employee's perspective. If you're doing it on your private machine over which you have full control then how can anyone prove it was done during work hours?
      - chii 8y ago
        If you are sitting at the office, then you are a company resource, and the code you write must necessarily belong to the company...
        mieseratte 8y ago
        You're missing the point. If the rogue employee is already taking advantage, what's to stop them from doing so in a manner that also defrauds the company of any proof of ownership over a pet project?
      - 8y ago

To be honest, that sounds like it would be way more stressful than just working.

callesgg 8y ago

And soul crushing.

tw1010 8y ago
Only if you let your soul be immovably coupled to a fragile and exogenous variable like your job.
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
- xab9 8y ago
  You are sitting on your ass (conidering you are a dev) for eight friggin hours. If you include commuting, lunch break and the time you sleep, this is more time than you can spend with your family, hobbies, recreation etc. You don't need to like or "couple your soul" to your job, it's part of your life and life shouldn't suck because there is a very good chance that there isn't another one.
- ibeckermayer 8y ago
  If your soul isn’t in some sense coupled to the thing you spend most of your time doing, I simply do not understand what you tie your identity to...
PakG1 8y ago
If you have no scruples about getting free money, you can use the time to do whatever the heck you want. If you want to feel like you earned the money or you're not allowed to do anything outside of your scope, then yes, it's probably soul crushing.
- pc86 8y ago
  If you do anything using company resources on company time, they own it. Anything you create during that time, the company owns. Do you really want to do something on the side and have the company legally own all the IP to it?
  - probably_wrong 8y ago
    I don't think the company would be able to take knowledge out of my head, though. Paid, uninterrupted training for anything I want? Sign me up!
    - RugnirViking 8y ago
      I was thinking about this - going down to a random employee and over a couple weeks trying to get them to let me help them out with their job. Learning over a couple weeks the practical principles of say 3d modelling, Marketing, etc. Sounds like something I would be down for. I guess at the end of it you'd end up being relatively popular in the office too if you occasionally help out where teams are struggling.

soperj 8y ago

Only if you actually just browse baseball scores and play snake. Think about what kind of open source contributions you could make in this job.

flukus 8y ago
> Think about what kind of open source contributions you could make in this job Probably nothing important due to copyright issues, company time + company resources means the company owns the work. I do wonder if this is the origin of a lot of fun projects like "HN command line client" though.
- xab9 8y ago
  Not "nothing important", but nothing at all. All my work contracts around here clearly stated that what you write in your worktime is the company's intellectual property. It doesn't matter that you are not writing a thing.
  - Tade0 8y ago
    Ok, but that's a loyal employee's perspective. If you're doing it on your private machine over which you have full control then how can anyone prove it was done during work hours?
    - chii 8y ago
      If you are sitting at the office, then you are a company resource, and the code you write must necessarily belong to the company...
      - mieseratte 8y ago
        You're missing the point. If the rogue employee is already taking advantage, what's to stop them from doing so in a manner that also defrauds the company of any proof of ownership over a pet project?
    - 8y ago