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mirimir 8y ago
There are many security researchers who could do that. Even I know the basic issues to address, even if I don't know all of the implementation specifics.
- kasey_junk 8y ago
  Name one company you could call up and ask “hey I’m doing some dirt that might get me inestigated by the feds, can you secure my comms?” And they’d say yes. Now name one that an average attorney could find. I’m not picking on you, I’m serious. I have a couple of people I might ask, but if expect most of them to say “no thanks”
  - onetimemanytime 8y ago
    >>Name one company you could call up and ask “hey I’m doing some dirt that might get me inestigated by the feds, can you secure my comms?” And they’d say yes. No, "I'm doing sensitive work for a huge company and we fear that hackers are trying to penetrate our network and devices." How many would say yes now? Until the raid he was a big shot...and the personal "lawyer" to Trump.
    - kasey_junk 8y ago
      I suppose we are now very much into personal bias. Mine suggests that until very recently working as a personal lawyer for a reality star & planning for the “normal” security concerns therein wouldn’t be something high end firms would do (nor things lawyers would ask for) as a matter of course. Remember by the time the feds come knocking it’s too late.
      - onetimemanytime 8y ago
        Leave bias aside for a second: Trump (before election) is a high profile person, he does have a huge business with hundreds /thousands of employees and is worth at least billions. To want security is not just normal but a super smart move. If they pay, why wouldn't the top OPSEC companies tell them how to secure their devices? (Reading might do 99% of work though)
        mirimir 8y ago
        Or paying someone who's knowledgeable to read, and advise.
        kasey_junk 8y ago
        The billions number has always been in dispute, but I’m not suggesting he couldn’t pay some hypothetical person. I’m suggesting his roladex doesn’t have a specific person to call to do this & without this how do you get it done? I disagree with the assertion that reading gets the job done. He was using signal. He read something about encrypted messaging. When the feds came calling it wasn’t enough. You need highly specialized skills.
        onetimemanytime 8y ago
        The billions number has always been in dispute He's a braggart and not a great businessman considering the head-start he had, IMO, but that is irrelevant. Whether he has $3 billion or $10 Billion, he's still super rich, private jet rich for life. Even his children can sit by a beach house or two and live like kings for the rest of their lives. >>I disagree with the assertion that reading gets the job done. He was using signal. He read something about encrypted messaging. Signal message: "Joe, I'm sending a message so open Whatsapp and let me know when you're online...." "OK, time to kill Jimmy. The rest of the money will be there tomorrow." Delete it after it's read and...
      - mirimir 8y ago
        OK, his client was a reality star. But now he's working for a controversial president. Who's under investigation by various agencies, probably including rogue elements of the NSA. So is it any surprise that he'd be targeted? If there aren't security firms that handle stuff like that, isn't that quite the market opportunity? From what I know, one would start with an iPhone. And then tweak for known fails. Buy the various hacking services/systems, and test against them. Not cheap, I know. And not easily doable without connections. But hey, better safe than sorry.
  - gonesilent 8y ago
    Feel of them, just don't say your hiding from the feds.....http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-16/afp-seize-phones-as-part-of-phantom-secure-crackdown/9555652 http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-16/afp-seize-phones-as...
  - paulie_a 8y ago
    There was literally a company dedicated to exactly that got busted for exactly that. I am honestly too lazy to provide a reference on this Saturday morning, but you could have contacted them with: "hey I need secure communication about large quantities of cocaine/mdma/meth smuggling, what do you have that can help with that" Numerous people in that company outright went on the lamb. This happened extremely recently and the sinola cartel and Australian biker gangs were among their clients. It was covered on risky.biz podcast Edit: the Canadians actually did ask them about secure communication for cocaine smuggling

There are many security researchers who could do that. Even I know the basic issues to address, even if I don't know all of the implementation specifics.

kasey_junk 8y ago
Name one company you could call up and ask “hey I’m doing some dirt that might get me inestigated by the feds, can you secure my comms?” And they’d say yes. Now name one that an average attorney could find. I’m not picking on you, I’m serious. I have a couple of people I might ask, but if expect most of them to say “no thanks”
- onetimemanytime 8y ago
  >>Name one company you could call up and ask “hey I’m doing some dirt that might get me inestigated by the feds, can you secure my comms?” And they’d say yes. No, "I'm doing sensitive work for a huge company and we fear that hackers are trying to penetrate our network and devices." How many would say yes now? Until the raid he was a big shot...and the personal "lawyer" to Trump.
  - kasey_junk 8y ago
    I suppose we are now very much into personal bias. Mine suggests that until very recently working as a personal lawyer for a reality star & planning for the “normal” security concerns therein wouldn’t be something high end firms would do (nor things lawyers would ask for) as a matter of course. Remember by the time the feds come knocking it’s too late.
    - onetimemanytime 8y ago
      Leave bias aside for a second: Trump (before election) is a high profile person, he does have a huge business with hundreds /thousands of employees and is worth at least billions. To want security is not just normal but a super smart move. If they pay, why wouldn't the top OPSEC companies tell them how to secure their devices? (Reading might do 99% of work though)
      - mirimir 8y ago
        Or paying someone who's knowledgeable to read, and advise.
      - kasey_junk 8y ago
        The billions number has always been in dispute, but I’m not suggesting he couldn’t pay some hypothetical person. I’m suggesting his roladex doesn’t have a specific person to call to do this & without this how do you get it done? I disagree with the assertion that reading gets the job done. He was using signal. He read something about encrypted messaging. When the feds came calling it wasn’t enough. You need highly specialized skills.
        onetimemanytime 8y ago
        The billions number has always been in dispute He's a braggart and not a great businessman considering the head-start he had, IMO, but that is irrelevant. Whether he has $3 billion or $10 Billion, he's still super rich, private jet rich for life. Even his children can sit by a beach house or two and live like kings for the rest of their lives. >>I disagree with the assertion that reading gets the job done. He was using signal. He read something about encrypted messaging. Signal message: "Joe, I'm sending a message so open Whatsapp and let me know when you're online...." "OK, time to kill Jimmy. The rest of the money will be there tomorrow." Delete it after it's read and...
    - mirimir 8y ago
      OK, his client was a reality star. But now he's working for a controversial president. Who's under investigation by various agencies, probably including rogue elements of the NSA. So is it any surprise that he'd be targeted? If there aren't security firms that handle stuff like that, isn't that quite the market opportunity? From what I know, one would start with an iPhone. And then tweak for known fails. Buy the various hacking services/systems, and test against them. Not cheap, I know. And not easily doable without connections. But hey, better safe than sorry.
- gonesilent 8y ago
  Feel of them, just don't say your hiding from the feds.....http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-16/afp-seize-phones-as-part-of-phantom-secure-crackdown/9555652 http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-16/afp-seize-phones-as...
- paulie_a 8y ago
  There was literally a company dedicated to exactly that got busted for exactly that. I am honestly too lazy to provide a reference on this Saturday morning, but you could have contacted them with: "hey I need secure communication about large quantities of cocaine/mdma/meth smuggling, what do you have that can help with that" Numerous people in that company outright went on the lamb. This happened extremely recently and the sinola cartel and Australian biker gangs were among their clients. It was covered on risky.biz podcast Edit: the Canadians actually did ask them about secure communication for cocaine smuggling