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Told to Eat Its Vegetables, America Orders Fries
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- csallen 16y agoIf you get a login wall from the above link, try going through Google and clicking the first result: http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHMG_enUS291US301&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=told+to+eat+its+vegetables,+america+orders+fries http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHMG_enUS291US301&so...
- jarin 16y agoDoes anyone have a non-paywall link?
- lachyg 16y agoGot one. http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/told-to-eat-its-vegetables-america-orders-fries-54655 http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/told-to-eat-its-vegetables...
- ronnier 16y agoYou can always try my reader http://viewtext.org/article?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.nytimes.com%2f2010%2f09%2f25%2fhealth%2fpolicy%2f25vegetables.html%3fhpw http://viewtext.org/article?url=http%3a%2f%2fwww.nytimes.com...
- marcinw 16y agoAnytime you come across a paywall link on NYT's site, just remove the "/glogin?URI=" and query string from the URL, and you can usually brute through it.
- barrkel 16y agoChanging the 'Referer' HTTP header to http://news.google.com/ http://news.google.com/ or similar punches through many of these registration walls, like NYT, WaPo, FT, etc. On Firefox, the RefControl extension works well.
- twillerelator 16y ago>People know that vegetables can improve health More like: we were cajoled and coerced into eating vegetables by our parents, who were in turn cajoled by their parents, etc. We then spend the rest of our lives rationalising this uncritical acceptance, which isn't the same thing as knowing something.
- zeteo 16y agoIt's even arguable that vegetables were critical 100 years ago, but no longer in days when you can get your fiber from breakfast cereal and vitamins in the form of a pill.
- zach 16y agoNot just our parents: http://www.fruitsandveggiesmatter.gov/ http://www.fruitsandveggiesmatter.gov/ This site is a production of the Produce for Better Health Foundation, founded and funded by the Produce Marketers Association.
- anigbrowl 16y agoLike the meat producers don't do the same thing?
- zach 16y agoIs there an eatbeef.gov?!
- anigbrowl 16y agoYou'd be surprised how much government money goes into marketing agricultural products in general, including various flavors of meat. Strangely, nobody ever talks about cutting any of these programs. http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/ams.fetchTemplateData.do?template=TemplateN&navID=FindanAMSProgram&rightNav1=FindanAMSProgram&topNav=Home&leftNav=&page=FindanAMSProgram&resultType=&acct=AMSPW http://www.ams.usda.gov/AMSv1.0/ams.fetchTemplateData.do?tem...
- itistoday 16y agoI'm not afraid of zucchinis, but I just don't know how to cook them. This is just sad. So many people are failing at something as basic and fundamental as eating.
- cageface 16y agoMost vegetables are good if you just slice them up, steam them briefly, then sprinkle a little salt on them. If you don't feel like doing anything more ambitious this only takes a few minutes.
- nkassis 16y agoI just put them straight on the grill next to whatever I'm making. My wife does the more complex stuff when needed but that sometimes make me feel dumb. I can figure out most things on my own but cooking is something I just have no interest in learning.
- points 16y agos/eating/cooking
- itistoday 16y agoNo, I mean eating. Part of eating is knowing how and what to eat. As discussed in the article, they're not eating vegetables and are choosing to eat things like fries or potato chips instead. You don't even need to cook most vegetables to eat them. In fact, for many vegetables it's better (nutritionally) if you don't cook them.
- lelele 16y agoYou can eat a lot of veggies - zucchinis included - raw.
- wanderingmango 16y agoThe Stonesoup cookbook was featured here in June: http://thestonesoup.com/blog/2010/06/a-free-e-cookbook/ http://thestonesoup.com/blog/2010/06/a-free-e-cookbook/ I've switched almost entirely to that book — 5-ingredient, 10-minute recipes. It is quicker than eating out, and my veggie intake has tripled.
- ezyang 16y agoI suspect that if people knew how to cook vegetables properly, consumption would increase dramatically. Ask your vegan friends for some recipes.
- rubashov 16y agoThe presumption that people need to eat a lot of vegetables is perhaps flawed: http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/why-eat-5-portions-1.html http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/why-eat-5-portions-1.html Population studies haven't really shown a clear benefit from eating a lot of vegetables.
- atomical 16y agoThe benefit is that you don't become overweight and obese. I lived in Korea for a year and those people know how to eat vegetables. They are filling and low calorie which makes it less likely for the sedentary person to put on weight.
- points 16y agoIt's not a direct link though. I can stuff my face with nothing but donuts for weeks on end and never put on an ounce of weight. Which is probably as irritating as someone who can't lose weight.
- atomical 16y agoIt is a direct link because I am talking about calories. There is a myth that there are people who can eat whatever they want and not gain weight. Everyone has a base amount of calories to work from and if you go over that amount you gain weight.
- joe_the_user 16y ago"Who ya gonna believe, me or your own eyes?" (Groucho) I eat as much as I can, often twice as much an average person - it typical for me to have two helpings in a meal where most people have one. I have never gone over 145 pounds and I am 6' tall. I cannot gain weight, period. And I'm not alone as other posters mention.
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- sesqu 16y ago"We have to make the healthy choice the easy choice," Dr. Foltz said. That's the ticket. Implementation over theoretical qualities. I eat a salad pretty much every time I'm in a restaurant with a salad bar, but rarely otherwise.
- neilk 16y agoHow about looking at the cost? In America, grains, sugars, and meats are subsidized in myriad ways, directly and indirectly. It seems to me, when I was a child, salads were less expensive than meat. But it's almost starting to become the opposite.
- Mz 16y ago"Eating vegetables is a lot less fun than eating flavor-blasted Doritos," said Marcia Mogelonsly, a senior analyst for Mintel, a global marketing firm. "You will always have to fight that." Just offer flavor-blasted veggies: Outback Bloomin' Onion. Hashbrowns with onion and red pepper. Etc. I eat more veggies these days than I used to and that is part of my approach. Veggies don't have to be bland.
- autarch 16y agoI'm pretty sure potatoes and other starches are not included in the definition. I don't think hash browns are the solution, though they make for a delicious problem.
- Mz 16y agoMy understanding is potatoes are a vegetable and very nutritious in their own right, which is why they were a staple of the Irish diet until the potato famine (by staple, I mean you could practically raise a family primarily on potatoes and some poor families basically did just that). I do understand why french fries and potato chips are considered "junk food" but I don't think that changes the fact that potatoes are a vegetable.
- midnightmonster 16y agoObviously I'm not a controlled study, but I've found weight loss is easier since I made a habit of eating a large serving of vegetables at least once a day. And I don't worry about what I have to do to make them desirable--soy sauce, salad dressing, salt and butter--just so long as I'm mostly eating veggies at the time.
- tomjen3 16y ago>Dr. Jennifer Foltz, a pediatrician who helped compile the report. She, like other public health officials dedicated to improving the American diet, concedes that perhaps simply telling people to eat more vegetables isn’t working. Jesus, you didn't know this? Really? I have been bombarded with "this is healthy", "this is not healthy", "you should eat so much of this, so much of that, only a little bit of this" ever since I was four, possibly earlier. Same goes for all the calls to exercise, the cute campaigns to "exercise 30 minutes a day", "take the stairs", etc, etc, et fucking cetera. So why, after all this time have they still not realized that the reason I (and mostly everybody else) don't exercise isn't that we don't know we should, it is that exercising sucks, getting sweaty takes time and then you have to clean up again, getting back and forth to the gym, etc. The same thing goes for eating healthy, although it is _slightly_ ofset by carrots, which are very tasty.