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Yea, maybe you should prioritize 'ironing' it out.

Xylakant 8y ago
I’m certain they’ll accept help. So maybe go test, report bugs and issues and get involved if that’s a priority for you. Triage some of those weird bug reports. Write a guide on how to properly enable the feature, what it does and what to expect if it’s enabled. Explain what’s a bug and what’s just part of the expected - and sometimes annoying - behavior. Or just donate if you can’t do any of those things.
edanm 8y ago
Prioritize it over the probably 1,000s of other things they have to do, which we might not have any idea about? Just because one person was kind enough to try to help people with a short cautionary message, therefore bringing this specific issue to our attention?
some_account 8y ago
This feature is not even part of the UI yet. It's in progress. I really don't understand why technical people would start recommending its use to others on blogs in its current state. All you create is lots of bug reports coming in to Mozilla, forcing them to put resources into responding to users who blindly followed the blog and now their Firefox is "not working" anymore.
- Sir_Substance 8y ago
  >I really don't understand why technical people would start recommending its use to others on blogs in its current state. Because when ordinary users ask "what can I do to protect my privacy?" you have two possible answers: a) "Nothing, you're not smart enough to do this, you're screwed" b) "These things" B has a high learning curve, but telling people about it scares them off. If you care about your friends privacy and want to get them past that learning curve, it's better to let them stumble into issues and be there to answer questions.
  - Xylakant 8y ago
    But then the answer is not "These things" and let the FF devs deal with the fallout. The answer would be "This is what you can do and you'll see quite a few odd results. Ask _me_ when you have questions and I'll explain as good as I can.". I have quite a few of these switches on. First party isolation for example breaks the paypal payment flow on some, but not all, shops. It also breaks quite a few pages that recognize it as an adblocker. I know what to do if that happens, but I would never just recommend enabling that switch.
- Dylan16807 8y ago
  Do you know why there are so many separate things bundled under a single flag? Would it take much effort to add sub-flags for entirely separate anti-fingerprinting features?

I’m certain they’ll accept help. So maybe go test, report bugs and issues and get involved if that’s a priority for you. Triage some of those weird bug reports. Write a guide on how to properly enable the feature, what it does and what to expect if it’s enabled. Explain what’s a bug and what’s just part of the expected - and sometimes annoying - behavior. Or just donate if you can’t do any of those things.

edanm 8y ago

Prioritize it over the probably 1,000s of other things they have to do, which we might not have any idea about? Just because one person was kind enough to try to help people with a short cautionary message, therefore bringing this specific issue to our attention?

some_account 8y ago

This feature is not even part of the UI yet. It's in progress. I really don't understand why technical people would start recommending its use to others on blogs in its current state. All you create is lots of bug reports coming in to Mozilla, forcing them to put resources into responding to users who blindly followed the blog and now their Firefox is "not working" anymore.

Sir_Substance 8y ago
>I really don't understand why technical people would start recommending its use to others on blogs in its current state. Because when ordinary users ask "what can I do to protect my privacy?" you have two possible answers: a) "Nothing, you're not smart enough to do this, you're screwed" b) "These things" B has a high learning curve, but telling people about it scares them off. If you care about your friends privacy and want to get them past that learning curve, it's better to let them stumble into issues and be there to answer questions.
- Xylakant 8y ago
  But then the answer is not "These things" and let the FF devs deal with the fallout. The answer would be "This is what you can do and you'll see quite a few odd results. Ask _me_ when you have questions and I'll explain as good as I can.". I have quite a few of these switches on. First party isolation for example breaks the paypal payment flow on some, but not all, shops. It also breaks quite a few pages that recognize it as an adblocker. I know what to do if that happens, but I would never just recommend enabling that switch.
Dylan16807 8y ago
Do you know why there are so many separate things bundled under a single flag? Would it take much effort to add sub-flags for entirely separate anti-fingerprinting features?