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Reddit DMs will not reach their destination if they contain certain text
- Kenji 8y agoPeople who think that any chat that is embedded in a website is secure and private are retarded. The site owners ship whatever code they want into your browser. The only way you get secure and private channels is if you have a native app, possibly an open source one you compiled yourself, and you exchanged public keys with your friends.
- qrbLPHiKpiux 8y agoNothing is private if someone else controls the channel.
- jerezzprime 8y agoThat's not true. Private/Public key encryption is just one example of secure communication over an unsecured channel.
- welly 8y agoThis is not true at all.
- klodolph 8y agoIt seems like Reddit, Facebook, YouTube and others are "converging", partly due to the economic forces behind delivering good engagement metrics to advertisers and not placing ads next to undesirable content.
- rarec 8y agoIt is a strange blessing and mercy that websites unattractive to advertisers, like 4chan, are seemingly spared the worst of it.
- paidleaf 8y agoIt has nothing to do with advertising. It's about control and propaganda. The elites want to take control over social media. They want social media to be like the rest of media. Where the masses see what they want us to see. It's why europe has been on a censoring rampage. It's why china/russia/etc are very strict about social media. Do you think that advertisers, who are stepping over each other to advertise in china ( where they kill prisoners to harvest their organs ) or saudi arabia ( where they stone rape victims for adultery ) have any morals? Ultimately, reddit, facebook, youtube and others doesn't need advertisers. The advertisers need them. That's why the establishment has been waging a war to take control over social media. Social media is where the people ( young and increasingly the older ) are.
- IIAOPSW 8y agofirst the redesign now this. reddit is really starting to go downhill.
- stochastic_monk 8y agoWhenever I open reddit without logging in, I’m filled with abject horror by the abomination before me. Sure, it’s fixed after logging in, as I’ve opted for the “classic” look, but how long will they support both displays?
- hsljekskfh 8y agothat’s what happens to me, except it’s delayed by 30 seconds because it loads so slowly.
- technofiend 8y agoI can't read Reddit without logging in because that's what applies all my filters. It's a much more agreeable site once you strip off all the politics subreddits. Now I just need a way to filter off the karma whores like gallowboob.
- bdcravens 8y agoWhen I most recently logged in on a new computer, the new UI still persists. I suspect that's being rolled out slowly.
- amaccuish 8y agohttps://xkcd.com/1357/ https://xkcd.com/1357/
- labster 8y agoNot a relevant xkcd to GP. You would have done better posting a link to "Time", at least that one has people going downhill.
- IIAOPSW 8y agoReddit is a private entity entitled to make their own decisions on what is allowed on their platform. I'm a private entity entitled to say their decisions suck. HN is a private entity which (for now) is willing to host my opinion. Your response falls completely flat because I never claimed a right to Reddit.
- Fnoord 8y agoYeah, and MSN and Facebook block messages containing ThePirateBay.org. You can argue both ThePirateBay.org and Mega.co.nz are very likely copyright infringement material. Also, these are not private messages. That's why Tweakers.net calls private messages "direct messages" (DMs) and not "private messages" (PMs). They scan them, they read them back in case of a dispute, but apart from the moderator team other users cannot read them. The title of this subject seems to call it DM whereas Reddit appears to call their system PMs. Either way, Reddit falls under a different jurisdiction than Tweakers. A simple solution could be using GPG, or a different method of communication e.g. using JS over a less censoring platform. By using GPG (or some other form of public key cryptography), the messages are private, and the integrity of the data can be guaranteed.
- tom_ 8y agoThey are private because other users can't see them. I wouldn't advise reading anything more into the terminology than this.
- duxup 8y agoLegally it might be a good call to avoid the word private.
- userbinator 8y agoBy using GPG (or some other form of public key cryptography), the messages are private, and the integrity of the data can be guaranteed. Until they start blocking that (it's very easy to detect excessively high entropy, in fact one of the properties of good encryption is that output is indistinguishable from random noise) --- in which case, start using stenography...
- Operyl 8y agoA bit ago there was a mass spam wave of malware being spread via PM hosted on mega. It could just as likely be an anti spam measure gone wrong.
- duxup 8y agoI still get hit with DM spam on Reddit every once in a while. I'm kinda surprised, if some new account tosses out 100 DMs ... you'd think they'd be able to automatically cut them off. Then again they don't cut off accounts that just spam their blog or news site all the time either...
- Operyl 8y agoIt’s a never ending battle.
- smittywerben 8y agoUsually the offensive technology wins. Defensive technology is expensive and loses utility in times of peace.
- slig 8y agoIt yes, but there are a handful of very simple heuristics that Reddit (and Twitter) never cared to implement properly.
- apatters 8y agoThis is probably a sign that the situation is more complicated than it appears to be. I mean if they have hundreds or thousands of engineers, billions of dollars etc. they have surely considered these heuristics before, and there's probably a reason they haven't done them "right," we just are not privy to that reason.
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- imleft 8y agoA bit like some conservative words on hn.
- kirykl 8y ago"It's a little insurance policy...You're our product. And we can't very well have our products turning against us, can we?"
- ggg9990 8y agoI don’t see what’s in this for Reddit. They can’t possibly get sued for not doing this.
- sotojuan 8y agoFrom that thread: > Reddit's new "private" chat system is powered by send bird without any additional end to end encryption. > This means send bird provides a searchable plaintext database of all of these "private" chats. > https://sendbird.com/features https://sendbird.com/features > I like the (public) chat feature but to introduce "private" chats a feature that is clearly intended to increase interactivity and thus use of the feature without making this clear is just wrong IMO.
- beefhash 8y agoI think that's backwards. You cannot assume that a "private" message is actually private unless end-to-end encryption is advertised. You still cannot safely assume so unless you've checked the code yourself. Privacy is never the default. Hence the move to call things "direct" messages, rather than "private" as it used to be.
- cryptonector 8y agoYou also need an agreement from the recipient to keep it private.
- Ninn 8y agoYou cant even be sure when you have checked the source code of the project -- whos to say that is actually what is deployed?
- exikyut 8y agoI've had the same experience with imgur "private" messages. At least imgur are honest enough to not concretely state that they don't look.
- randyrand 8y agoMega is the best implementation of large file downloading on the web. Shame.
- SquareWheel 8y agoReddit's blocked Mega links for years. I'd have been surprised if their new chat platform didn't use the same filters. I bet URL shorteners don't work either, for the same reason.