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Obesity is growing because the cheap food is loaded with sugar while the healthier stuff is more expensive...

tudelo 8y ago
I can't agree that healthy food is necessarily expensive from the perspective of someone in the US. Chicken breast is regularly 1.99 a pound and thighs even cheaper. Canned food is ridiculously cheap, and frozen vegetables don't go bad and are no worse than fresh ones.
- scarface74 8y ago
  Canned food is usually higher in sodium.
  - gowld 8y ago
    Sodium is only unhealthy if you happen to have hypertsenion.
    - scarface74 8y ago
      Too much sodium can cause hypertension. https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/news/20150313/salt-may-be-bad-for-more-than-your-blood-pressure https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/news/...
- sedachv 8y ago
  > Chicken breast is regularly 1.99 a pound and thighs even cheaper. Why are people trotting out chicken as an example of healthy food? It is anything but: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/15/poultry-farms-antibiotics-chickens_n_5822438.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/15/poultry-farms-anti... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rNY7xKyGCQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rNY7xKyGCQ
  - ForRealsies 8y ago
    lol
  - Paul-ish 8y ago
    It is healthy in comparison to the average thing people eat. It's hard to get obese eating just chicken breast (you will get full pretty quick). We aren't going to get everyone drinking kale smoothies.
  - tudelo 8y ago
    I don't mean to say you are wrong or I am right. But what do you suppose is a better healthier solution? Everyone growing their own food? Or everyone starving? Obviously, no one food is healthy, note that I named a couple different "healthy" foods. Having a balanced diet is important. Nothing about your article seems to point to chicken being unhealthy to eat. I don't even know if you read the article. > Why are people trotting out chicken as an example of healthy food? Are you kidding me? If you're vegan, just come out and say it, or make an actual point. Part of my response was related to affordability, which is hard to beat when it comes to chicken as a source of protein. What healthy alternatives do you have? I started watching the second link. Interesting stuff. Maybe chicken isn't the most healthy option, but I don't think it's evil.
    - sedachv 8y ago
      > Nothing about your article seems to point to chicken being unhealthy to eat. I don't even know if you read the article. How can getting antibiotic resistant E. coli from eating chicken be healthy? https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/opinion/sunday/meat-antibiotics-organic-farming.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/opinion/sunday/meat-antib... > What healthy alternatives do you have? Beans are pretty great. > but I don't think it's evil. People in Medieval Europe did not think that torturing animals to death for entertainment was evil. It is obviously evil to people in Europe today, just like breeding and enslaving animals in horrific conditions only to slaughter them for food is obviously evil if you take a moment to think about it.
matwood 8y ago
Unhealthy food is only cheaper if you can't be bothered to take 30 minutes to cook. It has been a long time, but the last time I went to McD's it was ~$5 for a meal. The expensive grocery store up the street sells chicken breast on a permanent sale for $1.99/pound. If you're thinking the unhealthy food in the grocery store is cheap, that's also not true. Chips are $3-$5/bag while 3 pounds of onions is $2. I could go on.
- et1337 8y ago
  Poor people often have less time as well, due to working multiple jobs, taking the bus, etc.
- learnstats2 8y ago
  I will be sure to immediately replace my bag of chips with a bag of onions? Poor people are likely to be both cash-poor and time-poor: it's not a question of "being bothered". If you have the available time to fully consider, process, and follow this advice, then you may not realistically be poor at all. And, if you did manage to follow this advice, you would likely still be poor - saving pennies on food is not any way out of poverty.
  - matwood 8y ago
    I was poor growing up. Both parents worked, a lot. My mom had tons of ways to quickly prepare ground beef or chicken into something that tasted good. When she had time she bought whole chickens and broken them down because it was cheaper. Maybe once/month she would buy a 2 liter of soda as a treat for my sister and me. So I've been there and done that. And lets get off of this no time argument. Why do all these people with no time still have TVs? The average American watches ~5 hours of TV per day. Watch 4 hours instead and cook a healthier and cheaper meal.
    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      "And lets get off of this no time argument. Why do all these people with no time still have TVs? The average American watches ~5 hours of TV per day. Watch 4 hours instead and cook a healthier and cheaper meal." That's a complete non-sequitor. You're going to have to provide evidence that those who are poor are the ones watching tv so much, and don't have the time because they're working multiple jobs.
prewett 8y ago
I cook my own food from fresh vegetables, meat, etc. for about $10/day. It's not organic-branded, but I can't see how it's any less healthy, and it seems pretty inexpensive to me.

I can't agree that healthy food is necessarily expensive from the perspective of someone in the US. Chicken breast is regularly 1.99 a pound and thighs even cheaper. Canned food is ridiculously cheap, and frozen vegetables don't go bad and are no worse than fresh ones.

scarface74 8y ago
Canned food is usually higher in sodium.
- gowld 8y ago
  Sodium is only unhealthy if you happen to have hypertsenion.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    Too much sodium can cause hypertension. https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/news/20150313/salt-may-be-bad-for-more-than-your-blood-pressure https://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/news/...
sedachv 8y ago
> Chicken breast is regularly 1.99 a pound and thighs even cheaper. Why are people trotting out chicken as an example of healthy food? It is anything but: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/15/poultry-farms-antibiotics-chickens_n_5822438.html https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/15/poultry-farms-anti... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rNY7xKyGCQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rNY7xKyGCQ
- ForRealsies 8y ago
  lol
- Paul-ish 8y ago
  It is healthy in comparison to the average thing people eat. It's hard to get obese eating just chicken breast (you will get full pretty quick). We aren't going to get everyone drinking kale smoothies.
- tudelo 8y ago
  I don't mean to say you are wrong or I am right. But what do you suppose is a better healthier solution? Everyone growing their own food? Or everyone starving? Obviously, no one food is healthy, note that I named a couple different "healthy" foods. Having a balanced diet is important. Nothing about your article seems to point to chicken being unhealthy to eat. I don't even know if you read the article. > Why are people trotting out chicken as an example of healthy food? Are you kidding me? If you're vegan, just come out and say it, or make an actual point. Part of my response was related to affordability, which is hard to beat when it comes to chicken as a source of protein. What healthy alternatives do you have? I started watching the second link. Interesting stuff. Maybe chicken isn't the most healthy option, but I don't think it's evil.
  - sedachv 8y ago
    > Nothing about your article seems to point to chicken being unhealthy to eat. I don't even know if you read the article. How can getting antibiotic resistant E. coli from eating chicken be healthy? https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/opinion/sunday/meat-antibiotics-organic-farming.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/opinion/sunday/meat-antib... > What healthy alternatives do you have? Beans are pretty great. > but I don't think it's evil. People in Medieval Europe did not think that torturing animals to death for entertainment was evil. It is obviously evil to people in Europe today, just like breeding and enslaving animals in horrific conditions only to slaughter them for food is obviously evil if you take a moment to think about it.

matwood 8y ago

Unhealthy food is only cheaper if you can't be bothered to take 30 minutes to cook. It has been a long time, but the last time I went to McD's it was ~$5 for a meal. The expensive grocery store up the street sells chicken breast on a permanent sale for $1.99/pound. If you're thinking the unhealthy food in the grocery store is cheap, that's also not true. Chips are $3-$5/bag while 3 pounds of onions is $2. I could go on.

et1337 8y ago
Poor people often have less time as well, due to working multiple jobs, taking the bus, etc.
learnstats2 8y ago
I will be sure to immediately replace my bag of chips with a bag of onions? Poor people are likely to be both cash-poor and time-poor: it's not a question of "being bothered". If you have the available time to fully consider, process, and follow this advice, then you may not realistically be poor at all. And, if you did manage to follow this advice, you would likely still be poor - saving pennies on food is not any way out of poverty.
- matwood 8y ago
  I was poor growing up. Both parents worked, a lot. My mom had tons of ways to quickly prepare ground beef or chicken into something that tasted good. When she had time she bought whole chickens and broken them down because it was cheaper. Maybe once/month she would buy a 2 liter of soda as a treat for my sister and me. So I've been there and done that. And lets get off of this no time argument. Why do all these people with no time still have TVs? The average American watches ~5 hours of TV per day. Watch 4 hours instead and cook a healthier and cheaper meal.
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    "And lets get off of this no time argument. Why do all these people with no time still have TVs? The average American watches ~5 hours of TV per day. Watch 4 hours instead and cook a healthier and cheaper meal." That's a complete non-sequitor. You're going to have to provide evidence that those who are poor are the ones watching tv so much, and don't have the time because they're working multiple jobs.

prewett 8y ago

I cook my own food from fresh vegetables, meat, etc. for about $10/day. It's not organic-branded, but I can't see how it's any less healthy, and it seems pretty inexpensive to me.