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I'd have some sign language for anybody who tried enforcing "sign language ground rules." > * I have a teammate who likes to write the core rules on the whiteb

I'd have some sign language for anybody who tried enforcing "sign language ground rules." > * I have a teammate who likes to write the core rules on the whiteboard before each meeting, and point to them when he starts the meeting, and each time a participant needs reminding. Are you working with school children or professionals?

seanmcdirmid 8y ago
The whole point of K-12 education is to produce obidient factory workers. It isn’t a coincidence that some office cultures might evolve in similar ways.
jph 8y ago
> I'd have some sign language for anybody who tried enforcing "sign language ground rules." Are you working with school children or professionals? For example the Executive Director was deaf, a significant number of client staff were hard of hearing, and there were 100K school students, including special needs students, and many recent immigrants who were starting to learn English. All online materials were provided in accessible formats, and all public presentations had a sign language interpreter. A typical classroom meeting, district meeting, or videoconference, could have 20-80 participants. I can point you to the National Association for the Deaf (NAD) which is an excellent advocacy group. NAD works to improve accessibility, equal access, and equal opportunities. Sign language in the workplace can be a big help to some people. https://www.nad.org/resources/civil-rights-laws/ https://www.nad.org/resources/civil-rights-laws/
- anothergoogler 8y ago
  You didn't make it at all clear that your sign language rules were to serve the deaf and hard of hearing. This is not a common workplace situation so perhaps you understand my confusion.
- a_e_k 8y ago
  I once served on a jury with a fellow who was deaf. It's been a while now, but I recall that we'd do things like minimize side conversations, take very well-defined turns when speaking, and pause in between speakers to allow the interpreters to catch up. It was an interesting process and I think that being respectful of him and the interpreters actually made us more efficient in our deliberation as a group.
  - jph 8y ago
    Your experience is fascinating! Can you write a bit more about this? I think you're on to something important.
- gowld 8y ago
  You've received a lot of hostile comments in this conversation, and you've handled them all with aplomb and courtesy, bridging the gaps of mismatched assumptions. I salute you.
  - jph 8y ago
    Thank you for noticing and commenting; I appreciate your salute. Positivity is enormous help to people, including me. :)

seanmcdirmid 8y ago

The whole point of K-12 education is to produce obidient factory workers. It isn’t a coincidence that some office cultures might evolve in similar ways.

jph 8y ago

> I'd have some sign language for anybody who tried enforcing "sign language ground rules." Are you working with school children or professionals? For example the Executive Director was deaf, a significant number of client staff were hard of hearing, and there were 100K school students, including special needs students, and many recent immigrants who were starting to learn English. All online materials were provided in accessible formats, and all public presentations had a sign language interpreter. A typical classroom meeting, district meeting, or videoconference, could have 20-80 participants. I can point you to the National Association for the Deaf (NAD) which is an excellent advocacy group. NAD works to improve accessibility, equal access, and equal opportunities. Sign language in the workplace can be a big help to some people. https://www.nad.org/resources/civil-rights-laws/ https://www.nad.org/resources/civil-rights-laws/

anothergoogler 8y ago
You didn't make it at all clear that your sign language rules were to serve the deaf and hard of hearing. This is not a common workplace situation so perhaps you understand my confusion.
a_e_k 8y ago
I once served on a jury with a fellow who was deaf. It's been a while now, but I recall that we'd do things like minimize side conversations, take very well-defined turns when speaking, and pause in between speakers to allow the interpreters to catch up. It was an interesting process and I think that being respectful of him and the interpreters actually made us more efficient in our deliberation as a group.
- jph 8y ago
  Your experience is fascinating! Can you write a bit more about this? I think you're on to something important.
gowld 8y ago
You've received a lot of hostile comments in this conversation, and you've handled them all with aplomb and courtesy, bridging the gaps of mismatched assumptions. I salute you.
- jph 8y ago
  Thank you for noticing and commenting; I appreciate your salute. Positivity is enormous help to people, including me. :)