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Only if you are in the EU. Many Tesla drivers aren't.
by craftyguy 8y ago
Only if you are in the EU. Many Tesla drivers aren't.
- gameswithgo 8y agojust drive over to the EU. Is there a supercharge in the atlantic yet?
- ccozan 8y agoMaybe the next big thing will be an electric boat with floating chargers powered by an solar array.
- nemoniac 8y agoThe GDPR also holds for European Tesla drivers outside the EU.
- lumisota 8y agoIs this true? Doesn't the GDPR only applied to those within the EU (i.e., resident or not), or anyone, anywhere, if the company handling the data is in the EU?
- stordoff 8y agoI don't believe that's true. For processors outside of the Union, it applies to "data subjects in the Union" or "monitoring [...] within the Union". https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/ https://gdpr-info.eu/art-3-gdpr/
- dpwm 8y agoDoes this mean that if a US citizen goes on holiday to a country in the European Union, that they are a data subject in the European Union?
- s3krit 8y agoYes, as I understand it, that is correct. When you are in a country that is a member of the EU, your data held by companies is subject to the GDPR.
- lenocinor 8y agoDoesn't this mean that even a US company which explicitly verifies it only works with US citizens must still IP block all of Europe to comply? EDIT: A nasty surprise that might be, too, if it turns out there was important data via that service that you wanted to access abroad but couldn't.
- iofiiiiiiiii 8y agoOnly if they actually have a legal presence in the EU. If they are a US company that has no legal entity established in the EU, the laws of the EU have no effect on them.
- lenocinor 8y agoThanks for the info.
- Dylan16807 8y ago> must still IP block all of Europe to comply It could comply the normal way.
- cmurf 8y agoIf I go on holiday to an EU country, which (Google) emails, chats, searches become subject to GDPR? All those sent/received only during that holiday? Is Google (or whoever) really going to attach some metadata just to that time frame saying data collected on that date range is subject to GDPR?
- rmc 8y agoNo, GDPR only applies if (i) you're in the EU or (ii) the org with the personal data is in the EU. (i) might be enforible against a US corp if they have something in the EU to do business
- tzs 8y agoIf Tesla has a branch or subsidiary or something similar in the EU, then GDPR applies regardless of where the data is actually processed or where the data subject is.
- emodendroket 8y agoIf the customer is in the US (or any other non-EU jurisdiction) they don't have to follow GDPR for them.
- breakingcups 8y agoNo. If you're a US citizen* doing business with a US-based company you don't have the right to request your own data, even if that company also does business in Europe. * and there are European citizen dual passport shenanigans
- tzs 8y agoIf it is a US company that does business in Europe, but is not established in the Union, you are correct. If the company is established in the Union, then GDPR applies to all personal data processing it does. See Article 3(1): "This Regulation applies to the processing of personal data in the context of the activities of an establishment of a controller or a processor in the Union, regardless of whether the processing takes place in the Union or not." The question, then, is Tesla merely a company that is offering goods and services to people in the Union, but not itself established in the Union, or is Tesla established in the Union?
- cosmojg 8y agoWhat does "established in the union" even mean?
- daniel-alex 8y agoI read it as based/headquartered in the European Union.
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