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I don't get GM. Just make it look like a ATS or something sporty. Cars are still a fashion statement and a social signal. What are you saying with the bolt?

by Zhenya 8y ago

wil421 8y ago
You assume these big car companies want to actually sell Hybrids or EVs. Until recently (still might be the case), I was only to find hybrids with every single option. Making Hybrids one of the top tier models. Or they would create some odd looking car like the Bolt, Prius or Leaf.
thefounder 8y ago
I believe they don't want to sell many...just like BMW did with i3
- adventured 8y ago
  That's plausible. It's also a really bad way to go. Tesla will hit ~$16-$18 billion in sales in 2018. All of that directly comes out of the pockets of BMW, Mercedes, Toyota (Lexus), Honda (Acura), and Nissan (Infiniti). If they keep giving Tesla time, they might actually reach a point of being financially self-sustaining. In two more fiscal years they'll probably be at $28 billion in sales.
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mywittyname 8y ago
Small crossovers like the Honda HR-V, KIA Soul, and Chevy Trax are what sell to people looking for economical cars at that price point. The Bolt is designed to blend into that segment. The ATS, by contrast, has been a huge failure in terms of sales for GM.
rsynnott 8y ago
Maybe it’s a regional thing, but in this country I’d say at least half the cars on the road look more or less like the Bolt; non-descript hatchback. If anything, GM’s being safe there; by going with the less popular sedan format Tesla is taking more of a risk.
- erikpukinskis 8y ago
  The Bolt has weird details on its snout. It’s like the slots in the side of a dogs nose. Compare to the Chevy Cruze Hatchback which is much more normal looking. The Cruze also has a nice subtle curve to the side windows, whereas the Bolt looks like someone grabbed the roof and yanked it up. I am quite certain they intentionally keep their design A-team far away from the EVs.
  - erikpukinskis 8y ago
    And as a side note, Tesla only has AAA designs for their EVs because they poached Mazda’s design lead, Frantz Von Holfhausen. Mazda was killing it during his tenure, with some of the best designs of their history.
matte_black 8y ago
They are saying “Yea it’s better for the environment but don’t fall in love with it too much we don’t want to start having to make tons of electric vehicles yet.”

I don't get GM. Just make it look like a ATS or something sporty. Cars are still a fashion statement and a social signal. What are you saying with the bolt?

by Zhenya 8y ago

I don't get GM. Just make it look like a ATS or something sporty. Cars are still a fashion statement and a social signal. What are you saying with the bolt?

wil421 8y ago

You assume these big car companies want to actually sell Hybrids or EVs. Until recently (still might be the case), I was only to find hybrids with every single option. Making Hybrids one of the top tier models. Or they would create some odd looking car like the Bolt, Prius or Leaf.

thefounder 8y ago

I believe they don't want to sell many...just like BMW did with i3

adventured 8y ago
That's plausible. It's also a really bad way to go. Tesla will hit ~$16-$18 billion in sales in 2018. All of that directly comes out of the pockets of BMW, Mercedes, Toyota (Lexus), Honda (Acura), and Nissan (Infiniti). If they keep giving Tesla time, they might actually reach a point of being financially self-sustaining. In two more fiscal years they'll probably be at $28 billion in sales.
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mywittyname 8y ago

Small crossovers like the Honda HR-V, KIA Soul, and Chevy Trax are what sell to people looking for economical cars at that price point. The Bolt is designed to blend into that segment. The ATS, by contrast, has been a huge failure in terms of sales for GM.

rsynnott 8y ago

Maybe it’s a regional thing, but in this country I’d say at least half the cars on the road look more or less like the Bolt; non-descript hatchback. If anything, GM’s being safe there; by going with the less popular sedan format Tesla is taking more of a risk.

erikpukinskis 8y ago
The Bolt has weird details on its snout. It’s like the slots in the side of a dogs nose. Compare to the Chevy Cruze Hatchback which is much more normal looking. The Cruze also has a nice subtle curve to the side windows, whereas the Bolt looks like someone grabbed the roof and yanked it up. I am quite certain they intentionally keep their design A-team far away from the EVs.
- erikpukinskis 8y ago
  And as a side note, Tesla only has AAA designs for their EVs because they poached Mazda’s design lead, Frantz Von Holfhausen. Mazda was killing it during his tenure, with some of the best designs of their history.

matte_black 8y ago

They are saying “Yea it’s better for the environment but don’t fall in love with it too much we don’t want to start having to make tons of electric vehicles yet.”