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They now have access to private projects so can use that to help create exploits to closed source products that are hosted on GitHub or use it to create their o

They now have access to private projects so can use that to help create exploits to closed source products that are hosted on GitHub or use it to create their own products or patents.

Fnoord 8y ago
Who has this access. The NSA? They didn't have this access when GitHub was independent? Says who? Backed up by which facts?
- merinowool 8y ago
  Fact is Microsoft is a hostile company and will have access to private repositories.
  - Fnoord 8y ago
    Fact? How do you define whether Microsoft is hostile? What are your criteria? Look, I hated Microsoft in the '90s and '00s. I was there. I grew up in a world where IBM dominated the market though. They've both changed. The market has changed and both of these companies had to deal with that. The reality is that nowadays people pay with their privacy instead of with currency for a product; they are the product. Does it matter much who owns the product (independent US company, big player like Amazon, Microsoft, Facebook, Amazon, or Apple?)
    - merinowool 8y ago
      My criteria is based on how they treated me on several occasions.
      - Fnoord 8y ago
        Very vague description of your anecdotal evidence. I mean, for starters, which time period are you referring to?
        merinowool 8y ago
        The most recent is a month or two ago when I upgraded my motherboard and cpu and my retail Windows 10 deactivated and I was unable to activate it myself, so I had to contact support. "Support" was rude and insisted on invading my privacy by remotely accessing my system to do "something". It took several days of exchange and they treated me like a potential scammer and I even had to send scan of receipt to prove that I indeed bought a motherboard. Utter scum.
  - wangyjx 8y ago
    Why MS cares your private repositories? give a reason? Maybe using your code to train their programming robot, lol
    - g-b-r 8y ago
      This is a much more concrete possibility than people might realize: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/blog/deep-learning-program-synthesis/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/blog/deep-learning-...
      - wangyjx 8y ago
        public repositories contain enough data to learn, private repositories only a small part

They now have access to private projects so can use that to help create exploits to closed source products that are hosted on GitHub or use it to create their own products or patents.

Fnoord 8y ago

Who has this access. The NSA? They didn't have this access when GitHub was independent? Says who? Backed up by which facts?

merinowool 8y ago
Fact is Microsoft is a hostile company and will have access to private repositories.
- Fnoord 8y ago
  Fact? How do you define whether Microsoft is hostile? What are your criteria? Look, I hated Microsoft in the '90s and '00s. I was there. I grew up in a world where IBM dominated the market though. They've both changed. The market has changed and both of these companies had to deal with that. The reality is that nowadays people pay with their privacy instead of with currency for a product; they are the product. Does it matter much who owns the product (independent US company, big player like Amazon, Microsoft, Facebook, Amazon, or Apple?)
  - merinowool 8y ago
    My criteria is based on how they treated me on several occasions.
    - Fnoord 8y ago
      Very vague description of your anecdotal evidence. I mean, for starters, which time period are you referring to?
      - merinowool 8y ago
        The most recent is a month or two ago when I upgraded my motherboard and cpu and my retail Windows 10 deactivated and I was unable to activate it myself, so I had to contact support. "Support" was rude and insisted on invading my privacy by remotely accessing my system to do "something". It took several days of exchange and they treated me like a potential scammer and I even had to send scan of receipt to prove that I indeed bought a motherboard. Utter scum.
- wangyjx 8y ago
  Why MS cares your private repositories? give a reason? Maybe using your code to train their programming robot, lol
  - g-b-r 8y ago
    This is a much more concrete possibility than people might realize: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/blog/deep-learning-program-synthesis/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/blog/deep-learning-...
    - wangyjx 8y ago
      public repositories contain enough data to learn, private repositories only a small part