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No, it's not okay. Imagine a blog engine (or a better forum) where the user can upload media (be it pictures or video) - and all those files will have to be sen

by xab9 8y ago

No, it's not okay. Imagine a blog engine (or a better forum) where the user can upload media (be it pictures or video) - and all those files will have to be sent for analysis to a EU server? The checksum is clearly not enough in this case, so EU administering bodies would have to set up a really sophisticated system - and in countries where getting even an appointment date to the social healthcare system is nigh impossible I see literally zero chance for such a backend (so everyone's on their own). In this case what's happening here is that we are killing the internet as we know it (or knew it five years ago). Government bodies most of the time are incompetent in IT (unless they have an ulterior motive, like large scale censorship or surveillance), so you're probably better off relying the giants' service and create a facebook page, or a google doc, instead of building something on your own (creating a gray net). There are many worst case scenarios with this law. Facebook and Google creating a new Internet, government bodies setting up "copyright servers" (with advanced data mining capabilites), link tax rendering hyperlinks feared, extortion schemes by shady organizations and lawyers, implementation tax for software development, fear of innovations et cetera.

amelius 8y ago
> Government bodies most of the time are incompetent in IT Like universities and DARPA?
- xab9 8y ago
  DARPA is a common and overused response here, but nowdays we hear more about killer drones and face recognition... but yeah, I guess the military will always create inventions that are useful for civil purposes, but I still consider that focused research. Universities depend on governmental funding to a certain extent, but they have their own freedom - though I still can't see how the next Facebook or next Google or the next super intelligent state firewall will emerge from a research project.
Barrin92 8y ago
> in this case what's happening here is that we are killing the internet as we know it This basically depends on how high the bar for due diligence is set. Will the regulatory bodies provide a certain set of filter criteria that the companies have to implement and everything that isn't being caught is not their problem? Then it's not that big of a deal and might be a good idea to catch the worst offenders and hold platforms accountable. Is it going to end in countless copyright lawsuits against platform owners just because some content escaped them? Then it'd be a nightmare. I think there is some healthy middle-ground. Platform owners should have to face some duty to see that their platforms are used in lawful ways, (akin to say owners of a bar not allowing illegal gambling under their noses), but it shouldn't interfer too strongly with regular, legitimate business.

by xab9 8y ago

amelius 8y ago

> Government bodies most of the time are incompetent in IT Like universities and DARPA?

xab9 8y ago
DARPA is a common and overused response here, but nowdays we hear more about killer drones and face recognition... but yeah, I guess the military will always create inventions that are useful for civil purposes, but I still consider that focused research. Universities depend on governmental funding to a certain extent, but they have their own freedom - though I still can't see how the next Facebook or next Google or the next super intelligent state firewall will emerge from a research project.

Barrin92 8y ago

> in this case what's happening here is that we are killing the internet as we know it This basically depends on how high the bar for due diligence is set. Will the regulatory bodies provide a certain set of filter criteria that the companies have to implement and everything that isn't being caught is not their problem? Then it's not that big of a deal and might be a good idea to catch the worst offenders and hold platforms accountable. Is it going to end in countless copyright lawsuits against platform owners just because some content escaped them? Then it'd be a nightmare. I think there is some healthy middle-ground. Platform owners should have to face some duty to see that their platforms are used in lawful ways, (akin to say owners of a bar not allowing illegal gambling under their noses), but it shouldn't interfer too strongly with regular, legitimate business.