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Perhaps you will be unsurprised to learn that this poster's first contribution to HN was, in fact, a multi-paragraph impassioned defense of said Nazi hate site:
by CPLX 8y ago
Perhaps you will be unsurprised to learn that this poster's first contribution to HN was, in fact, a multi-paragraph impassioned defense of said Nazi hate site: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16731182 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16731182
- Andre_Wanglin 8y agoPlease dispute a single fact. In fact, your comment is a lie as my first "contribution" was a simple one-line assertion based on information I happened to be aware of.[0] It was only after being prodded for substantiation that I bothered to type a whopping 3+ paragraphs of facts relating to the matter under discussion. [0]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16728884 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16728884
- zingmars 8y agoThese shaming tactics are not helpful, and to be quite honest it's kind of creepy that you actually went through his post history just to find some 'dirt' on this person.
- DanBC 8y agoThey are helpful. HN is being trolled by a polite racist. It's important that people know this, so they can avoid being trolled.
- CPLX 8y agoIndeed. I'm quite certain I'm under no obligation to engage with disingenuous neo-Nazi's on the internet, and I see little good that could possibly result from trying.
- opportune 8y agoThey absolutely are helpful. This website doesn’t need racists to try to recruit new people here by attempting to engage in “debate.” Look up Stormfront, what they believe, and how they try to “recruit”
- pbhjpbhj 8y agoI read some of Mein Kampf once imagining that on every page I'd find the vilest, most abhorrent statements, ill-informed and manifestly damaging to society. Surprisingly some elements of what Hitler said on education made sense. Someone can be a racist bigot and still have a good idea in another field.
- gizmo686 8y agoA lot of people were taking the Daily Stormer's side on that that issue. Heck, I grew up idolazing the ACLU because they would defend Nazis.
- lern_too_spel 8y agoI feel lucky as a non-Jew non-black that I won't have to live in terror of the people radicalized by the Daily Stormer's conspiracy theories and hate speech. Maybe you do too. That doesn't mean it's right for a company to give the Daily Stormer a platform for radicalization, which the company is under no legal obligation to do.
- gizmo686 8y agoI feel lucky as a Jewish American that I live in a country where the rights of Nazi's are respected. I do not want to get into a legal argument of if CloudFlare is allowed to discriminate (they likely are). But I do want to live in a world where they are not allowed to. First they came for the Nazis, and I did not speak out because I hate Nazis. Then, they came for me, and there were no institutional protections, because they would have protected those damn Nazis.
- JoeAltmaier 8y agoNice ivory tower. But Nazis almost destroyed the world; they killed 50 million people. I'm making an exception for them.
- gizmo686 8y agoAnd how do you plan on making that exception? In the case under discussion, Cloudflare established the president that they could terminate service to customers based on what they say. We have already decided as a society that we do not want the government to have that sort of power. Why are we now insisting that private companies must have and use that power? Freedom is not defended by defending people that we like. It is defended at the periphery; by defending people that most of us do not like.