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> The hundred billion dollar question is how do you scale it? Its been done. Its called a funded welfare state. > Show me a school model that's succeeding wit

> The hundred billion dollar question is how do you scale it? Its been done. Its called a funded welfare state. > Show me a school model that's succeeding with the most at risk subdemographic within disadvantaged communities and then I'll be impressed. Absolutely right, because it takes much more thatn just a good school to eradicate poverty. If you really need to help children, you need to start by helping their parents: national healthcare and decent well paying jobs. Parents will have time to dedicate to their children if they are not busy and drained struggling to keep their head above water.

adrianN 8y ago
Germany is a welfare state and yet children from poor parents perform worse in school.
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- adventured 8y ago
  The US is a welfare state. Its welfare programs consume a larger share of GDP than the welfare programs of Canada or Australia, and is just below Switzerland. The US is spending 19.3% of its GDP on social welfare programs, just behind the UK at 21.5%. https://i.imgur.com/JQfZ5vi.png https://i.imgur.com/JQfZ5vi.png Inflation adjusted per capita income transfers have roughly doubled since 1990, from ~$4,400 to ~$8,600 in 2016.
  - noir-york 8y ago
    So where is all the money going? The UK has a (diminshed) NHS and spends less as a % of GDP. I suspect that a big part of it is that money is being wasted (the Fed.Gov cannot negotiate drug prices!), and not reaching the intended beneficiaries. My perception is that there is an industrial-welfare complex that diverts the money.
    - Wohlf 8y ago
      It's going towards cost disease, waste, bureaucracy, nepotism, lawsuits, etc.
- noir-york 8y ago
  It used to, and then Schröder passed the Hartz reforms and the German welfare state has never been the same since.
- bildung 8y ago
  Of course they still perform worse, a school cannot magically change the parents of those students into middle class parents. A better question would be: Is the performance gap between poor students and middle class students lower in Germany?
- nunya213 8y ago
  Indeed but they perform much better relative to the difference between poor and rich students in the US.

adrianN 8y ago

Germany is a welfare state and yet children from poor parents perform worse in school.

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adventured 8y ago
The US is a welfare state. Its welfare programs consume a larger share of GDP than the welfare programs of Canada or Australia, and is just below Switzerland. The US is spending 19.3% of its GDP on social welfare programs, just behind the UK at 21.5%. https://i.imgur.com/JQfZ5vi.png https://i.imgur.com/JQfZ5vi.png Inflation adjusted per capita income transfers have roughly doubled since 1990, from ~$4,400 to ~$8,600 in 2016.
- noir-york 8y ago
  So where is all the money going? The UK has a (diminshed) NHS and spends less as a % of GDP. I suspect that a big part of it is that money is being wasted (the Fed.Gov cannot negotiate drug prices!), and not reaching the intended beneficiaries. My perception is that there is an industrial-welfare complex that diverts the money.
  - Wohlf 8y ago
    It's going towards cost disease, waste, bureaucracy, nepotism, lawsuits, etc.
noir-york 8y ago
It used to, and then Schröder passed the Hartz reforms and the German welfare state has never been the same since.
bildung 8y ago
Of course they still perform worse, a school cannot magically change the parents of those students into middle class parents. A better question would be: Is the performance gap between poor students and middle class students lower in Germany?
nunya213 8y ago
Indeed but they perform much better relative to the difference between poor and rich students in the US.