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Absolutely no idea why Stephen Miller and others in the Trump Whitehouse are preoccupied with stifling all forms of immigration into the United States. If your

Absolutely no idea why Stephen Miller and others in the Trump Whitehouse are preoccupied with stifling all forms of immigration into the United States. If your main argument is that immigration is bringing crime (it isn't) and flooding the market with low skill labor (which... is consistent with our history) I don't see how you can go after a niche like this, which is both low volume and high skill and actually creates middle-class jobs for Americans. Is there a sentiment that native-born entrepreneurs are losing out on VC cash due to immigration?

godzillabrennus 8y ago
It’s likely a chip in their negotiations with the democrats to change immigration law. They’ll likely reintroduce some variant of it with sweeping curbs to low skilled immigration.
- heyoni 8y ago
  In the meantime permanently damaging the US’ reputation as the place to be. Those drops in foreign university enrollment are only going to get worse with this rescission.
  - godzillabrennus 8y ago
    His supporters don’t care about trivial things like the international standing of our nation. He’s playing to his base. That’s how he gets his second term.
- Karishma1234 8y ago
  What is this low skilled immigration ?
rayiner 8y ago
> Drafted two days before Donald Trump’s inauguration, the rule-making was seen by many Republicans as an example of executive office overreach. > “Parole is supposed to be reserved for short term and emergency purposes,” said Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, a conservative think tank with ties to the current administration. “Previous administrations have pushed the envelope on parole, and the Obama administration kicked right through the envelope and claimed that the existence of the parole authority meant that the president could admit anyone.”
moultano 8y ago
They're racists in the most literal sense. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bannon-flattered-and-coaxed-trump-on-policies-key-to-the-alt-right/2016/11/15/53c66362-ab69-11e6-a31b-4b6397e625d0_story.html?utm_term=.718f0968b170 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bannon-flattered... “When two-thirds or three-quarters of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think . . . ” Bannon said, not finishing the sentence. “A country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society.”
- Karishma1234 8y ago
  That quote pretty much sums it up. Under Obama democrats abandoned their stance on individual freedom and instead turned to extreme leftism. Conservatives as a response abandoned their fiscal and economic conservatism and instead turned to identity politics of old white people. American society is deeply divided at the moment and Indians and Chinese immigrants and the collateral damage.
  - ebikelaw 8y ago
    I invite you to describe any Obama-era policy that can be called “extreme leftist”.
    - dang 8y ago
      Please don't take HN further into political flamewar. There's no way this can end well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - pavlov 8y ago
    > Under Obama democrats abandoned their stance on individual freedom and instead turned to extreme leftism If the United States in 2016 represented extreme leftism, what do you call e.g. Mao's China in 1968?
    - blunte 8y ago
      Given the attitudes of the current GOP, George W. Bush would not have even made the ticket and Reagan would be considered a Hollywood elite leftist. Fortunately this cancer is so exceptionally aggressive that it will kill the host very quickly.
neuronexmachina 8y ago
They've been pretty obvious about why they want to stifle immigration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_(politics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_(politics)
Karishma1234 8y ago
Racism! They are just upset that Indians, Chinese, Koreans are doing better and the usual white control of everything is rapidly declining. The general young white population in USA itself is becoming more liberal and accepting of others. This hurts identity politics of conservatives. Indian-American for example are ideal immigrants. They have lowest crime rates, very good assimilation, 0 terrorist threat, high income levels and even their kids are high achievers. Ideally USA should be actively bringing young and bright Indians to USA and offer them citizenship. Instead they have to wait over 3 decades to get a green card.
- frockington 8y ago
  Calling a group of people racist and then generalizing all Indian Americans as being ideal immigrants is about as contradictory as you can get in one argument
blunte 8y ago
You are missing the primary directive behind most of the current administration's actions - undo as much as possible what the previous administration did.
stevenwoo 8y ago
There was a profile on Stephen Miller just posted today. He unfriended kids in high school when he realized that they were not white. In some ways it's quite complimentary of his skills in debating/trolling with many examples over the years including during the interview for the profile. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/stephen-miller-trump-adviser/561317/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/stephen...

godzillabrennus 8y ago

It’s likely a chip in their negotiations with the democrats to change immigration law. They’ll likely reintroduce some variant of it with sweeping curbs to low skilled immigration.

heyoni 8y ago
In the meantime permanently damaging the US’ reputation as the place to be. Those drops in foreign university enrollment are only going to get worse with this rescission.
- godzillabrennus 8y ago
  His supporters don’t care about trivial things like the international standing of our nation. He’s playing to his base. That’s how he gets his second term.
Karishma1234 8y ago
What is this low skilled immigration ?

rayiner 8y ago

> Drafted two days before Donald Trump’s inauguration, the rule-making was seen by many Republicans as an example of executive office overreach. > “Parole is supposed to be reserved for short term and emergency purposes,” said Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies, a conservative think tank with ties to the current administration. “Previous administrations have pushed the envelope on parole, and the Obama administration kicked right through the envelope and claimed that the existence of the parole authority meant that the president could admit anyone.”

moultano 8y ago

They're racists in the most literal sense. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bannon-flattered-and-coaxed-trump-on-policies-key-to-the-alt-right/2016/11/15/53c66362-ab69-11e6-a31b-4b6397e625d0_story.html?utm_term=.718f0968b170 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bannon-flattered... “When two-thirds or three-quarters of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think . . . ” Bannon said, not finishing the sentence. “A country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society.”

Karishma1234 8y ago
That quote pretty much sums it up. Under Obama democrats abandoned their stance on individual freedom and instead turned to extreme leftism. Conservatives as a response abandoned their fiscal and economic conservatism and instead turned to identity politics of old white people. American society is deeply divided at the moment and Indians and Chinese immigrants and the collateral damage.
- ebikelaw 8y ago
  I invite you to describe any Obama-era policy that can be called “extreme leftist”.
  - dang 8y ago
    Please don't take HN further into political flamewar. There's no way this can end well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- pavlov 8y ago
  > Under Obama democrats abandoned their stance on individual freedom and instead turned to extreme leftism If the United States in 2016 represented extreme leftism, what do you call e.g. Mao's China in 1968?
  - blunte 8y ago
    Given the attitudes of the current GOP, George W. Bush would not have even made the ticket and Reagan would be considered a Hollywood elite leftist. Fortunately this cancer is so exceptionally aggressive that it will kill the host very quickly.

neuronexmachina 8y ago

They've been pretty obvious about why they want to stifle immigration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_(politics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_(politics)

Karishma1234 8y ago

Racism! They are just upset that Indians, Chinese, Koreans are doing better and the usual white control of everything is rapidly declining. The general young white population in USA itself is becoming more liberal and accepting of others. This hurts identity politics of conservatives. Indian-American for example are ideal immigrants. They have lowest crime rates, very good assimilation, 0 terrorist threat, high income levels and even their kids are high achievers. Ideally USA should be actively bringing young and bright Indians to USA and offer them citizenship. Instead they have to wait over 3 decades to get a green card.

frockington 8y ago
Calling a group of people racist and then generalizing all Indian Americans as being ideal immigrants is about as contradictory as you can get in one argument

blunte 8y ago

You are missing the primary directive behind most of the current administration's actions - undo as much as possible what the previous administration did.

stevenwoo 8y ago

There was a profile on Stephen Miller just posted today. He unfriended kids in high school when he realized that they were not white. In some ways it's quite complimentary of his skills in debating/trolling with many examples over the years including during the interview for the profile. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/stephen-miller-trump-adviser/561317/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/stephen...