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I’m still not understanding the controversy and kickback around these regulations. The hysteria around GDPR has been silly. My home country has a Privacy Act,
by erentz 8y ago
I’m still not understanding the controversy and kickback around these regulations. The hysteria around GDPR has been silly.
My home country has a Privacy Act, it’s terribly weak and has little enforcement but the principals in it were drilled into me from the very start of my career. Customer data is really important. It must be kept private and not shared. And we should only have what we need to have for whatever we’re doing for them. I don’t know why those principals are so hard for people to swallow. Now in the states when I hear mobile carriers are selling my location data without my consent, and so on, I get completely irate. It boggles my mind why people think that kind of behavior should be allowed.
- Ensorceled 8y agoThese are separate Things with some overlap. A Saas company that does nothing fishy with users data, may still be concerned with the harsh, company destroying penalties associated with GDPR. Indeed there have been dozens of discussions on HN about this. It may be FUD, but it’s real. The other people are doing terrible things. Please don’t assert the people in the first group are actually in the second.
- TAForObvReasons 8y agoIt's probably better stated as: > The people doing terrible things are trying to convince other companies that they will be destroyed by the GDPR
- Ensorceled 8y agoPerhaps. But the large fines are a concern without too much prompting from the problem companies. Not saying the GDPR is bad, I’d personally like to see it applied every where.
- bsder 8y agoOkay, so what was Ragnarok Online doing that it had to shut down?
- seszett 8y agoWho knows? Probably fishy things, what other explanation is there?
- bsder 8y agoHow about: Not making enough money to actually update the codebase. You can be doing good, normal things and still not be compliant with the law.
- DoveBrown 8y agoWhat good things can you be doing with my stored data that you don't need to run your service?
- InitialLastName 8y agoAs I understand it, the law was passed because the representatives of the people of europe saw a misalignment between "normal" and "good" and decided to enforce it.
- pjc50 8y agoMisinterpreting the rules?
- seszett 8y ago> harsh, company destroying penalties associated with GDPR These are entirely imagined, most likely by Americans spreading FUD, or people interpreting the terms "maximum fine" as a minimum fine.
- mattnewton 8y agoWhen it’s a largely opaque foreign regulator deciding where on the scale your fine will be I’d argue it’s irresponsible to consider anything less than the maximum when doing cost-benefit analysis.
- TAForObvReasons 8y ago> I don’t know why those principals are so hard for people to swallow. The top comment from a post yesterday explains it very well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17165707 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17165707 > Because Facebook and Google have been guided by the principal: if it's not illegal, it's ethical. The problem with that philosophy is that if you've normalized any questionable behavior on the basis that it is legal, the natural response will be stronger legislation. The "unstated rules" around privacy and people's personal information have been broken. Any ire at forthcoming regulation should be directed at the bad actors, like Facebook and Google.
- ASalazarMX 8y ago> Any ire at forthcoming regulation should be directed at the bad actors, like Facebook and Google. Agreed, but the buyers of said information should be scrutinized too. If they are willing to pay money for that information, what are they using it for?
- Mirioron 8y ago>I’m still not understanding the controversy and kickback around these regulations. The hysteria around GDPR has been silly. Because it puts a whole bunch of people out of a job and ruins the user experience for many things. Every news site I go to I get greeted by a pop up that won't go away until I interact with it. Apparently similar things are happening with phone apps as well. And while this is happening I've read about people having their app revenue drop 90% in some cases. We're not even a full week in yet, so we don't know what the full effects of this are going to be. >It boggles my mind why people think that kind of behavior should be allowed. It's not about whether data abuse is okay or not, but rather it's about the consequences of taking such a heavy-handed approach as GDPR did.
- petre 8y ago> Because it puts a whole bunch of people out of a job and ruins the user experience for many things. No, really, it is the advertisers who ruined the experience in the first place. And almost every site tries to make you agree to data collection without giving you another option, or hiding the other option under several menus. That's why I closed the TC page.
- tpxl 8y agoWow, you weren't joking. The menu they present is confusing as hell.
- Mirioron 8y agoThe advertisers are the reason why many of these jobs existed in the first place. Developers don't run off of hot air and exposure.
- heavenlyblue 8y agoThen it’s probably just the time to fire all of them. I work for an ad arb business. We don’t collect user-identifiable data and still make loads of money. Your point of view would seem to justify child trafficking if that would pay the bills for most of the people in the industry.
- jakeogh 8y agoIt's a direct attack on memory; surreal to see tech people cheering on more restrictions on general purpose computing.
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