3 ms·

The trauma olympics isn't usually a fruitful discussion, but I think it's worth pointing out that Holocaust survivors were from a single generation or two, whil

The trauma olympics isn't usually a fruitful discussion, but I think it's worth pointing out that Holocaust survivors were from a single generation or two, while slavery in America existed for 240 years, so it might not be a fair comparison. And the level of racism Chinese immigrants faced is still of a much lower intensity than black Americans faced. I mean, even if you don't count the first 240 years of slavery, there's still the next hundred years of weekly extrajudicial executions in public by mobs.

civilitty 8y ago
Hell, the whole "hard working" Asians stereotype was a racist attempt to discredit criticisms of racism towards African Americans. "Hey, look! We're not racist! If the blacks were as hard working as the yellows we wouldn't have a problem!" was literally their argument.
- ThrowawayR2 8y ago
  > Hell, the whole "hard working" Asians stereotype was a racist attempt to discredit criticisms of racism towards African Americans. Did you really just attempt to discredit the rather well documented history of industriousness of Asians and Asian-American immigrants in particular in order to further your political narrative?
  - jonnybgood 8y ago
    I think you’re missing their point. People of all races are hard working. That should go without saying. To say a whole race of people are not hard working is nothing more than a form of racism.
lopmotr 8y ago
Jews have been persecuted for a thousand years [1]! They whole reason for the Jewish diaspora was they kept getting kicked out of countries wherever they settled. Even where they were temporarily tolerated, they were still often discriminated against. Antisemitism wasn't just a Nazi thing, it was global and lasted far longer than slavery. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Germany
- lifeformed 8y ago
  I know, but I was responding to the claim that "no population has gone through more stress than post-war Jews" and it being a counterexample to American slavery. It's a difficult thing to compare as it's essentially an apples-to-oranges comparison.

civilitty 8y ago

Hell, the whole "hard working" Asians stereotype was a racist attempt to discredit criticisms of racism towards African Americans. "Hey, look! We're not racist! If the blacks were as hard working as the yellows we wouldn't have a problem!" was literally their argument.

ThrowawayR2 8y ago
> Hell, the whole "hard working" Asians stereotype was a racist attempt to discredit criticisms of racism towards African Americans. Did you really just attempt to discredit the rather well documented history of industriousness of Asians and Asian-American immigrants in particular in order to further your political narrative?
- jonnybgood 8y ago
  I think you’re missing their point. People of all races are hard working. That should go without saying. To say a whole race of people are not hard working is nothing more than a form of racism.

lopmotr 8y ago

Jews have been persecuted for a thousand years [1]! They whole reason for the Jewish diaspora was they kept getting kicked out of countries wherever they settled. Even where they were temporarily tolerated, they were still often discriminated against. Antisemitism wasn't just a Nazi thing, it was global and lasted far longer than slavery. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Germany

lifeformed 8y ago
I know, but I was responding to the claim that "no population has gone through more stress than post-war Jews" and it being a counterexample to American slavery. It's a difficult thing to compare as it's essentially an apples-to-oranges comparison.