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That's not even remotely accurate. Power companies oversubscribe just like everyone else. That's why they give you a discount for hooking up a device on your ai

by tw04 8y ago

That's not even remotely accurate. Power companies oversubscribe just like everyone else. That's why they give you a discount for hooking up a device on your air conditioner they can remotely control during peak times to even out power usage. Also why you hear of rolling outages during extremely hot summer weather when everyone has their ac on at the same time. That's why they have a different service for business users. If they were equipped to service every home at 100% all of the time, your bill would be about 10x what it currently is.

briandear 8y ago
That problem doesn’t exist in Washington State.
Rjevski 8y ago
Then maybe they shouldn’t be oversubscribing, or finally upgrade the infrastructure now that they milked out enough money from the oversubscription and the energy consumption is finally catching up. Another solution is to make a proper “burstable” tariff with the corresponding meter that would give you a baseline current allowance plus a peak current allowance for X seconds. As it stands however they are selling packages promising X amps and are pissed off because someone is actually using X amps. Well they definitely don’t earn any sympathy from me - this kind of behaviour reeks of scum.
- tw04 8y ago
  Right, 100 years of service that works perfectly fine should be thrown out the window. The rest of us should all pay a 10x increase so Bitcoin miners can abuse the system. And oh, btw, when the 10x increase occurs, the Bitcoin miners won't be able to afford it, so we'll have a glut of unused power that we'll all have to eat the cost of. Brilliant idea.
  - Rjevski 8y ago
    Do you mean you are happy with being sold a tariff promising X amps while cutting you off when you do use those X amps? Look, I dislike Bitcoin too, but what I dislike even more is companies making money promising X and then actually cutting you off should you dare to use that X. At the moment, the "miners" are paying for an energy tariff that promises them X and are using X; the fact they're using it on Bitcoin is completely irrelevant, the problem is that a company is making money on false promises and somehow the buyer is the one at fault? We've already got this bullshit with "unlimited" data, let's not set a precedent by tolerating this for energy tariffs. If the grid can't sustain everyone using 100 amps then they shouldn't be selling 100 amp tariffs and should switch to "burstable" tariffs with a continuous allowance of let's say 50 amps and a "burst" allowance of 100 amps for X seconds.
    - tw04 8y ago
      >Do you mean you are happy with being sold a tariff promising X amps while cutting you off when you do use those X amps? I'm going to assume you don't live in the US, or haven't ever actually built a new house. You are absolutely not promised the full usage 100% of the time. And they're very clear about that. It's why you must hire a licensed electrician to fill out a load sheet before they'll put a shovel in the ground or a ladder in the air to run service to your premises. I'm not sure why you keep claiming that, but there isn't a power company in the US that had EVER promised a residential Customer that they could use 100% of the rated line all the time.

by tw04 8y ago

briandear 8y ago

That problem doesn’t exist in Washington State.

Rjevski 8y ago

Then maybe they shouldn’t be oversubscribing, or finally upgrade the infrastructure now that they milked out enough money from the oversubscription and the energy consumption is finally catching up. Another solution is to make a proper “burstable” tariff with the corresponding meter that would give you a baseline current allowance plus a peak current allowance for X seconds. As it stands however they are selling packages promising X amps and are pissed off because someone is actually using X amps. Well they definitely don’t earn any sympathy from me - this kind of behaviour reeks of scum.

tw04 8y ago
Right, 100 years of service that works perfectly fine should be thrown out the window. The rest of us should all pay a 10x increase so Bitcoin miners can abuse the system. And oh, btw, when the 10x increase occurs, the Bitcoin miners won't be able to afford it, so we'll have a glut of unused power that we'll all have to eat the cost of. Brilliant idea.
- Rjevski 8y ago
  Do you mean you are happy with being sold a tariff promising X amps while cutting you off when you do use those X amps? Look, I dislike Bitcoin too, but what I dislike even more is companies making money promising X and then actually cutting you off should you dare to use that X. At the moment, the "miners" are paying for an energy tariff that promises them X and are using X; the fact they're using it on Bitcoin is completely irrelevant, the problem is that a company is making money on false promises and somehow the buyer is the one at fault? We've already got this bullshit with "unlimited" data, let's not set a precedent by tolerating this for energy tariffs. If the grid can't sustain everyone using 100 amps then they shouldn't be selling 100 amp tariffs and should switch to "burstable" tariffs with a continuous allowance of let's say 50 amps and a "burst" allowance of 100 amps for X seconds.
  - tw04 8y ago
    >Do you mean you are happy with being sold a tariff promising X amps while cutting you off when you do use those X amps? I'm going to assume you don't live in the US, or haven't ever actually built a new house. You are absolutely not promised the full usage 100% of the time. And they're very clear about that. It's why you must hire a licensed electrician to fill out a load sheet before they'll put a shovel in the ground or a ladder in the air to run service to your premises. I'm not sure why you keep claiming that, but there isn't a power company in the US that had EVER promised a residential Customer that they could use 100% of the rated line all the time.