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That's exactly my point. The EU is built for entrenched institutions. There is no entrepreneurial spirit -- and that's why there's N-number of self driving car
by ng12 8y ago
That's exactly my point. The EU is built for entrenched institutions. There is no entrepreneurial spirit -- and that's why there's N-number of self driving car companies in the US and zero(?) in the EU, for example.
- Barrin92 8y agoAll (or most?) of the big European car manufacturers in Europe provide and actively research self-driving technology. Volkswagen's research budget is five times as large (iirc correctly) as Tesla's. You are succumbing to a lot of stereotypes here, which I might add is fuelled by a cargo cult tendency within Silicon Valley.
- pilsetnieks 8y agoNo, you see, if it's not a startup, it cannot be innovative.
- wlll 8y agoYou think you're being funny, but it took silicon valley to invent a machine to press juice of proprietary only bags of pre-chopped fruit, so I think you look rather foolish now!
- ng12 8y agoBut they're all providing that technology to American firms who are implementing the technology rather than developing it at home. See what I'm driving at?
- lovich 8y agoSo they do some research and then let some american companies that can't even imagine why you'd create safety regulations do the practical testing which kills American citizens instead of European ones when the inevitable mistakes happen. Then they get access to the technology through partnerships. This sounds like a win-win for the EU companies
- fma 8y agoApple recently gave up their self driving shuttle and told Volkswagen to do it for them. So yeah...cargo cult and tunnel vision.
- Brakenshire 8y agoEuropean car companies sell identical technology to Tesla, it's just they call it lane assist (accurately), not autopilot.
- mianos 8y agoYou are mistaken. Lane assist is not the same level as available in a Tesla. No European car has or has ever had the higher autonomous level than the late model Tesla has. https://medium.com/iotforall/the-5-autonomous-driving-levels-explained-b92a5e834928 https://medium.com/iotforall/the-5-autonomous-driving-levels...
- Dylan16807 8y agoTesla has ambitious goals, especially when it comes to reusing existing hardware, but right now the software is level 2.
- takeitto 8y agoThe EU had self-driving cars in the 1980s (Ernst Dickmanns & Mercedes, demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I39sxwYKlEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I39sxwYKlEE ). The most expensive robot car project was in Europe (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Prometheus_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Prometheus_Project). I do agree that the EU has less of an entrepreneurial spirit. Some cultural elements, but also practical: It is difficult to scale an app, since there are such large language and culture barriers between EU member states. There is a decades long brain-drain of highly technical (AI) people. Finally, it is very hard to compete with US companies, as they skirt the rules, winning all network effects with huge VC infusions. I always suspected some of that was accomplished with military and intelligence support: The American economy and intelligence apparatus stands to benefit a lot with the entire world using Google and Facebook. The other side of this coin is that the pro-privacy anti-surveillance movement may also be supported by foreign intelligence agencies in an attempt to hurt US economic and military interests. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lernout_%26_Hauspie#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lernout_%26_Hauspie#History was close to establishing an AI-type Silicon Valley in Belgium in the early 2000's, but was unsuccessful.
- Marazan 8y agoFamously French has no word for entrepreneur. /s
- KozmoNau7 8y ago>"There is no entrepreneurial spirit" That betrays a deep lack of knowledge of what happens in Europe. There are a ton of innovative ideas and services that originated here. Just off the top of my head, Skype and Spotify are huge and well-known.
- GW150914 8y agoWhereas the US with its ISP, fossile fuel, pharmaceutical monopolies, it’s GM and Apple, Google, Amazon, Apple, and Facebook, Lockheed, and Boeing is obviously a Randian utopia. Yes indeed, no entrenched institutions in the US! /s In cased you missed it.