4 ms·

I plan to completely ignore GDPR laws and will not modify neither my privacy policy not my SaaS product, even if I have a lot of customers from the EU.

Bud 8y ago
Why? You're opposed to privacy? And how do you plan to react when you get penalized?
- anf 8y ago
  Because he's lazy and thinks he'll get away with it. He'll come into compliance after penalties outweigh the costs of changing the way he does business. This is probably the reaction of the vast majority of folks dealing with customer data, and not at all unexpected — they have a business to run, and costs to customer privacy are an externality being rolled into their costs via regulation.
  - orwin 8y ago
    Also, this is one of the sane solution if he know he has not that much user data. First fines will not be high or won't happen at all, and he will receive advice and even help from regulatory instances if he is ever reported. If every business owner commenting those GDPR post on HN could act the same and not like headless chicken, discussions would be more healthy.
- zenovision 8y ago
  I do care about privacy - I don't use Analytics on my website, don't show any ads, don't send marketing emails and don't sell customer data to anyone. However, I will not comply with that bureaucratic law, because the EU will not be able to enforce it in my country and I have much more important things to do to stay competitive on the market (I have a lot of competitors).
  - mrtksn 8y ago
    That's an important aspect. May I ask which country is that? I'm curious about your product too if you are comfortable enought to disclose it :)
  - Tomte 8y ago
    While I find your stance somewhat childish, I applaud you for "don't use Analytics on my website, don't show any ads, don't send marketing emails and don't sell customer data to anyone". You're far ahead of the curve. May you profit from it somehow.
  - anf 8y ago
    Do you send user data anywhere in a way users may not expect? If not there's probably nothing to comply with. It's really the opposite of bureaucratic law — the entire thing is quite readable and reasonable.
    - chernobogdan 8y ago
      Its going to become cookie law v2 with more annoying opt-ins
  - phyzome 8y ago
    "Oh no, the EU passed a law that is totally in line with my ethics! I'd better rebel against them."
- sandov 8y ago
  Being opposed to the use of violence to protect privacy = being opposed to privacy?
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
- Bizarro 8y ago
  He won't get penalized. He has no operations in the EU. GDPR does not extend outside of the EU.
anarchy8 8y ago
You better hope you fly under the radar then.
- qop 8y ago
  Why? Bad press often makes for great business. Not parent commenter btw, just my two cents
  - azernik 8y ago
    Because when the EU catches on, they will have funds in the EU (including customer or advertiser payments) seized, they will probably not be able to travel to the EU without fear of arrest, etc.
    - orwin 8y ago
      >hey will probably not be able to travel to the EU without fear of arrest, etc This is EU, not USA, Russia or China. At most his visa will be denied (and i'm not even sure immigration services will actually care)
kadenshep 8y ago
I think you're just grandstanding, since I hope anyone with a sufficiently large business would understand who and where their customers are and what laws would affect their revenue streams. Smells like another right+ forward from grandma.
varjag 8y ago
Can also boycott RoHS compliant products while at it.
mrtksn 8y ago
You should also ignore DMCA and host copyrighted movies, it will help with the visitor numbers.
nkkollaw 8y ago
...and why would you do that? We'll soon get used to websites following good privacy policies, so your SaaS will just look less appealing to Europeans. Is it really hard paying attention to how you handle people's sensitive information without selling it to third-parties?
MajorSauce 8y ago
Change one letter in your username and your comment suddenly makes a lot more sense.

Bud 8y ago

Why? You're opposed to privacy? And how do you plan to react when you get penalized?

anf 8y ago
Because he's lazy and thinks he'll get away with it. He'll come into compliance after penalties outweigh the costs of changing the way he does business. This is probably the reaction of the vast majority of folks dealing with customer data, and not at all unexpected — they have a business to run, and costs to customer privacy are an externality being rolled into their costs via regulation.
- orwin 8y ago
  Also, this is one of the sane solution if he know he has not that much user data. First fines will not be high or won't happen at all, and he will receive advice and even help from regulatory instances if he is ever reported. If every business owner commenting those GDPR post on HN could act the same and not like headless chicken, discussions would be more healthy.
zenovision 8y ago
I do care about privacy - I don't use Analytics on my website, don't show any ads, don't send marketing emails and don't sell customer data to anyone. However, I will not comply with that bureaucratic law, because the EU will not be able to enforce it in my country and I have much more important things to do to stay competitive on the market (I have a lot of competitors).
- mrtksn 8y ago
  That's an important aspect. May I ask which country is that? I'm curious about your product too if you are comfortable enought to disclose it :)
- Tomte 8y ago
  While I find your stance somewhat childish, I applaud you for "don't use Analytics on my website, don't show any ads, don't send marketing emails and don't sell customer data to anyone". You're far ahead of the curve. May you profit from it somehow.
- anf 8y ago
  Do you send user data anywhere in a way users may not expect? If not there's probably nothing to comply with. It's really the opposite of bureaucratic law — the entire thing is quite readable and reasonable.
  - chernobogdan 8y ago
    Its going to become cookie law v2 with more annoying opt-ins
- phyzome 8y ago
  "Oh no, the EU passed a law that is totally in line with my ethics! I'd better rebel against them."
sandov 8y ago
Being opposed to the use of violence to protect privacy = being opposed to privacy?
deleted 8y ago
[deleted]
Bizarro 8y ago
He won't get penalized. He has no operations in the EU. GDPR does not extend outside of the EU.

anarchy8 8y ago

You better hope you fly under the radar then.

qop 8y ago
Why? Bad press often makes for great business. Not parent commenter btw, just my two cents
- azernik 8y ago
  Because when the EU catches on, they will have funds in the EU (including customer or advertiser payments) seized, they will probably not be able to travel to the EU without fear of arrest, etc.
  - orwin 8y ago
    >hey will probably not be able to travel to the EU without fear of arrest, etc This is EU, not USA, Russia or China. At most his visa will be denied (and i'm not even sure immigration services will actually care)

kadenshep 8y ago

I think you're just grandstanding, since I hope anyone with a sufficiently large business would understand who and where their customers are and what laws would affect their revenue streams. Smells like another right+ forward from grandma.

varjag 8y ago

Can also boycott RoHS compliant products while at it.

mrtksn 8y ago

You should also ignore DMCA and host copyrighted movies, it will help with the visitor numbers.

nkkollaw 8y ago

...and why would you do that? We'll soon get used to websites following good privacy policies, so your SaaS will just look less appealing to Europeans. Is it really hard paying attention to how you handle people's sensitive information without selling it to third-parties?

MajorSauce 8y ago

Change one letter in your username and your comment suddenly makes a lot more sense.