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Last I heard Instapaper has 3 employees. Some smaller companies and lower-profile groups within big companies are going to need more time to sort this out, and

Last I heard Instapaper has 3 employees. Some smaller companies and lower-profile groups within big companies are going to need more time to sort this out, and some may decide it's not worth the risk of the massive fines no matter how compliant they think they are and will block European users. Nobody knows how aggressive regulators will be in enforcing this so far, nor is their any precedent for how the law will be interpreted by actual courts. Calling people incompetent isn't going to change that. This is one of the negative consequences of enacting complex regulation targeted mostly at giants like Facebook and Google and then applying it to every side project and business in the entire world no matter how big or small. Sorry.

jacquesm 8y ago
Nonsense. Instapaper was acquired by Pinterest.
- pembrook 8y ago
  And how much revenue does the Instapaper service generate for Pinterest? Lower profile groups within big companies are probably most likely to shut off their services to European users because they have the cautious legal departments of the large company without the important profit center designation which would make compliance a priority.
  - jacquesm 8y ago
    > And how much revenue does the Instapaper service generate for Pinterest? Who cares? That's not a factor in whether or not you should comply with the law. > Lower profile groups within big companies are probably most likely to shut off their services to European users because they have the cautious legal departments of the large company without the important profit center designation which would make compliance a priority. Well, that may be their strategy but it won't work because it is the company that is violating the law, not the lower profile group.
    - Kiro 8y ago
      > it is the company that is violating the law, not the lower profile group. I work in a company that was acquired and we're still our own legal entity. Would our owner be affected if we violate GDPR?
      - jacquesm 8y ago
        No, in that case the owner is just a shareholder. But if the original legal entity no longer exists (which I believe is the case with Instapaper) then it doesn't matter that you've been acquired, you are now part of the mothership.
        zitterbewegung 8y ago
        So a LLC with owned by a larger company would that allow for the owner to be a shareholder ?
        ryanwaggoner 8y ago
        But if the original legal entity no longer exists (which I believe is the case with Instapaper) Unlikely. "Instapaper Holdings, Inc." is right in their footer.
      - jimnotgym 8y ago
        That would depend on what kind of ownership structure you have. Do they exercise management control, have seats on the board etc?
    - LoSboccacc 8y ago
      > That's not a factor in whether or not you should comply with the law. speaking generally here, you know laws aren't always right? we had plenty bad laws to draw from to challenge this particular point, from racial to abortion laws. gdpr isn't as draconian as these but still has plenty trash in it between the vague wording, the moving target 'state of the art' represents and the weird requirements and absurd implications of the 'right to be forgotten'.

jacquesm 8y ago

Nonsense. Instapaper was acquired by Pinterest.

pembrook 8y ago
And how much revenue does the Instapaper service generate for Pinterest? Lower profile groups within big companies are probably most likely to shut off their services to European users because they have the cautious legal departments of the large company without the important profit center designation which would make compliance a priority.
- jacquesm 8y ago
  > And how much revenue does the Instapaper service generate for Pinterest? Who cares? That's not a factor in whether or not you should comply with the law. > Lower profile groups within big companies are probably most likely to shut off their services to European users because they have the cautious legal departments of the large company without the important profit center designation which would make compliance a priority. Well, that may be their strategy but it won't work because it is the company that is violating the law, not the lower profile group.
  - Kiro 8y ago
    > it is the company that is violating the law, not the lower profile group. I work in a company that was acquired and we're still our own legal entity. Would our owner be affected if we violate GDPR?
    - jacquesm 8y ago
      No, in that case the owner is just a shareholder. But if the original legal entity no longer exists (which I believe is the case with Instapaper) then it doesn't matter that you've been acquired, you are now part of the mothership.
      - zitterbewegung 8y ago
        So a LLC with owned by a larger company would that allow for the owner to be a shareholder ?
      - ryanwaggoner 8y ago
        But if the original legal entity no longer exists (which I believe is the case with Instapaper) Unlikely. "Instapaper Holdings, Inc." is right in their footer.
    - jimnotgym 8y ago
      That would depend on what kind of ownership structure you have. Do they exercise management control, have seats on the board etc?
  - LoSboccacc 8y ago
    > That's not a factor in whether or not you should comply with the law. speaking generally here, you know laws aren't always right? we had plenty bad laws to draw from to challenge this particular point, from racial to abortion laws. gdpr isn't as draconian as these but still has plenty trash in it between the vague wording, the moving target 'state of the art' represents and the weird requirements and absurd implications of the 'right to be forgotten'.