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That you don't need to eat three or four meals a day. You can compress all the meals into one and still stay productive, energetic & healthy. ( Speaking from 2+

by laex 8y ago

That you don't need to eat three or four meals a day. You can compress all the meals into one and still stay productive, energetic & healthy. ( Speaking from 2+ years experience of daily fasting and strength training )

BigHatLogan 8y ago
This is very interesting to me. What made you adopt this habit? It does seem counterintuitive to everything I have read and heard throughout my entire life. What sort of improvements, if any, have you noticed from adopting this style of eating versus the standard 3-4 meals per day? A tactical question: Do you load up all of your daily calories in that one meal e.g. if your usual intake is 2500 per day, do you have all of that at once or do you eat less?
- laex 8y ago
  > What made you adopt this habit? For losing weight. If you're obese to begin with, this regime will give very good results at the beginning which also helps with the motivation. Note: Fasting + Strength training is superior to justing fasting. Why ? Because fasting decreases your metabolism. Strength training does the opposite. > It does seem counterintuitive to everything I have read and heard throughout my entire life. Yes, I'd say so. > What sort of improvements, if any, have you noticed from adopting this style of eating versus the standard 3-4 meals per day? 1 ) Increased mental alertness - I've noticed how quickly the alertness disappears once food enters my body & digestion begins. Not sure If I should attribute this to increased insulin sensitivity or something else. 2 ) Increased productivity - It's amazing how much you can get done when you're not thinking of what & when to eat. I spend most of time writing code, learning new guitar riffs, & planning my workouts. 3 ) Prolonged workday: Related to (2). You can effectively prolong your daily work hours easily from the standard 8, up to 12 - 16 hours. This is because of (1) and (2). Heck you can also go 24 hours+. 4 ) Better quality sleep: On multi-day fasts (24+ hours), I get good quality sleep. I do believe they're of "good quality", because of an interesting effect I've noticed - you don't get the usual grogginess when you wake up. It's non-existent. > A tactical question: Do you load up all of your daily calories in that one meal e.g. if your usual intake is 2500 per day, do you have all of that at once or do you eat less? Yes - All calories in one meal. However, this is not optimal for muscle growth. For athletes, it'd be ideal to spread out protein intake across two meals, at the least.
  - reitanqild 8y ago
    Most of this could be me. When I was younger I'd fast or eat very little for up to 4-5 days and it gave me a productivity boost. I stopped after I took it too far(ended up shaking and nauseus after a bad combo of not completely keto + lifting weights) but have gradually stopped eating breakfasts at all and try to eat a very minimal lunch (a handful of peanuts or a slice of bread) multiple times a week. Just skipping breakfast means I'm less tired than I used to be. If I can get around to skipping lunch (I like the break and it is social) I guess it would improve my workday even more.
dhruvkar 8y ago
I'm coming to the same realization. doing 16:8 right now but would like to cut it down to one meal. does strength training take aome getting use to while fasting? what have you found to work for you?
- laex 8y ago
  Yes - strength training will take a few months to get used to. Depending on your workout's intensity and volume, you'll want to adjust your calories. Note: intensity = how heavy you lift, volume = reps * sets
ddorian43 8y ago
Just heard George Saint Pierre (UFC champion) is doing this. Intermittent fasting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_KS3RQbB5g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_KS3RQbB5g
O_H_E 8y ago
No that would not work, and will make you feel really uncomfortable after eating. You just have to eat the right type of food, beans, yogurt...
- imkamilm 8y ago
  Yes, it works. Eat a salad, rice, beans, fish, and vegies once a day and you're good. I'm fasting 18hrs/day and I lose fat + gain muscles. Also, I save lots of time which I can put into work since I don't spend my time on preparing/cooking meals that much.
  - O_H_E 8y ago
    Oh crap I replied to the wrong post. I was replying to a comment who asked if he can just "load up all of your daily calories in that one meal" I am actually fasting right now, sorry for -accidentally- being rude
- krageon 8y ago
  He just said he does it and that it works. It doesn't make any sense to respond to that with "no it doesn't".
- reitanqild 8y ago
  Can confirm it works. But yes, after a few days of fasting eating an ordinary meal makes me really full.
agitator 8y ago
My understanding is the cyclic fasting causes a fat storage response in the body to prepare for periods of low caloric intake. Personally, my brain, emotions, attention, all shuts down when I'm hungry. I bet I could get used to it, but the transition would definitely be tough. Also from past experience, my body consumes all of my muscle fairly quickly when I don't eat at regular intervals.
inertiatic 8y ago
I don't think there are any actual benefits of fasting like that and there might be a few downsides (nothing major). All in all, just do what feels right for you.

by laex 8y ago

BigHatLogan 8y ago

This is very interesting to me. What made you adopt this habit? It does seem counterintuitive to everything I have read and heard throughout my entire life. What sort of improvements, if any, have you noticed from adopting this style of eating versus the standard 3-4 meals per day? A tactical question: Do you load up all of your daily calories in that one meal e.g. if your usual intake is 2500 per day, do you have all of that at once or do you eat less?

laex 8y ago
> What made you adopt this habit? For losing weight. If you're obese to begin with, this regime will give very good results at the beginning which also helps with the motivation. Note: Fasting + Strength training is superior to justing fasting. Why ? Because fasting decreases your metabolism. Strength training does the opposite. > It does seem counterintuitive to everything I have read and heard throughout my entire life. Yes, I'd say so. > What sort of improvements, if any, have you noticed from adopting this style of eating versus the standard 3-4 meals per day? 1 ) Increased mental alertness - I've noticed how quickly the alertness disappears once food enters my body & digestion begins. Not sure If I should attribute this to increased insulin sensitivity or something else. 2 ) Increased productivity - It's amazing how much you can get done when you're not thinking of what & when to eat. I spend most of time writing code, learning new guitar riffs, & planning my workouts. 3 ) Prolonged workday: Related to (2). You can effectively prolong your daily work hours easily from the standard 8, up to 12 - 16 hours. This is because of (1) and (2). Heck you can also go 24 hours+. 4 ) Better quality sleep: On multi-day fasts (24+ hours), I get good quality sleep. I do believe they're of "good quality", because of an interesting effect I've noticed - you don't get the usual grogginess when you wake up. It's non-existent. > A tactical question: Do you load up all of your daily calories in that one meal e.g. if your usual intake is 2500 per day, do you have all of that at once or do you eat less? Yes - All calories in one meal. However, this is not optimal for muscle growth. For athletes, it'd be ideal to spread out protein intake across two meals, at the least.
- reitanqild 8y ago
  Most of this could be me. When I was younger I'd fast or eat very little for up to 4-5 days and it gave me a productivity boost. I stopped after I took it too far(ended up shaking and nauseus after a bad combo of not completely keto + lifting weights) but have gradually stopped eating breakfasts at all and try to eat a very minimal lunch (a handful of peanuts or a slice of bread) multiple times a week. Just skipping breakfast means I'm less tired than I used to be. If I can get around to skipping lunch (I like the break and it is social) I guess it would improve my workday even more.

dhruvkar 8y ago

I'm coming to the same realization. doing 16:8 right now but would like to cut it down to one meal. does strength training take aome getting use to while fasting? what have you found to work for you?

laex 8y ago
Yes - strength training will take a few months to get used to. Depending on your workout's intensity and volume, you'll want to adjust your calories. Note: intensity = how heavy you lift, volume = reps * sets

ddorian43 8y ago

Just heard George Saint Pierre (UFC champion) is doing this. Intermittent fasting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_KS3RQbB5g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_KS3RQbB5g

O_H_E 8y ago

No that would not work, and will make you feel really uncomfortable after eating. You just have to eat the right type of food, beans, yogurt...

imkamilm 8y ago
Yes, it works. Eat a salad, rice, beans, fish, and vegies once a day and you're good. I'm fasting 18hrs/day and I lose fat + gain muscles. Also, I save lots of time which I can put into work since I don't spend my time on preparing/cooking meals that much.
- O_H_E 8y ago
  Oh crap I replied to the wrong post. I was replying to a comment who asked if he can just "load up all of your daily calories in that one meal" I am actually fasting right now, sorry for -accidentally- being rude
krageon 8y ago
He just said he does it and that it works. It doesn't make any sense to respond to that with "no it doesn't".
reitanqild 8y ago
Can confirm it works. But yes, after a few days of fasting eating an ordinary meal makes me really full.

agitator 8y ago

My understanding is the cyclic fasting causes a fat storage response in the body to prepare for periods of low caloric intake. Personally, my brain, emotions, attention, all shuts down when I'm hungry. I bet I could get used to it, but the transition would definitely be tough. Also from past experience, my body consumes all of my muscle fairly quickly when I don't eat at regular intervals.

inertiatic 8y ago

I don't think there are any actual benefits of fasting like that and there might be a few downsides (nothing major). All in all, just do what feels right for you.