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Of course there's the other way (it's easier to get forgiveness than permission): do more work than expected in less than 40 hours in the office, and see if any

Of course there's the other way (it's easier to get forgiveness than permission): do more work than expected in less than 40 hours in the office, and see if anyone notices. One of the most productive stretches of my career was spent in this mode.

ironjunkie 8y ago
Definitely this one, and this is what a lot of people do at bigger companies BTW. I know a couple of those people myself. They "Work from home" on Mondays and/or Fridays and do very easy work, or commit//send stuff that they managed to do beforehand to generate some easy activities. If you are performing and producing what you should, this shouldn't matter, but here we are anyways...
- Cthulhu_ 8y ago
  If you have a manager checking how much units of work you do, you should look for something else.
CannisterFlux 8y ago
Asking for a friend here ;-) What if you can't do what's expected, even in 40+ hours? Sometimes the next ticket is "fix something that is unfixable" and until you've spent a long time on it, had your soul sucked out and stomped on, you aren't moving on to anything else. The only thing that counts is "hours wasted on the task". As in "welp, you've spent 60 hours on this, I guess it is unfixable". My friend worries that if they weren't warming the seat for ages, they would be seen as useless because there are weeks where they just seem to get nothing done.
- kasey_junk 8y ago
  You should tell your friend to look around for a better job. It’s amazing to me how work hours are relative. 25 at a terrible place is worse than 50 at an awesome one.
  - OpenDrapery 8y ago
    Yes, you just "know" when you've entered an unhealthy employee/employer relationship. It bleeds over into your personal life, and makes it difficult to focus on the actual work. Exit these relationships.