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T - 30 mins before this post gets buried. I don't understand despite the high upvote count, why do articles critical of China are not able to be in the first pa

T - 30 mins before this post gets buried. I don't understand despite the high upvote count, why do articles critical of China are not able to be in the first page for more than a couple hours. Also, China is the new Saudi Arabia. With the economic power, they can get away with anything and actually, you can't do anything to stop that. Even Trump who was so critical wanted to help ZTE as soon as the Chinese asked for interference.

crazy_monkey 8y ago
Lol, the US can get away with anything too like torture, illegal bombing, civilian casualties in a US wars, ... Maybe we should try introspecting too before assuming that others are not like us...
- nothrabannosir 8y ago
  Are you joking ? How literally can you be the very essence of what this article is about? This, literally this is what that research is describing. Stop changing the bloody subject ! Gah. Edit: this account is a smoking gun. Have a look at the comment history.
  - seanmcdirmid 8y ago
    Maybe grandparent was being ironic in their sarcasm?
    - jessaustin 8y ago
      We should always try to see more irony. It is a good antidote to the bullheaded self-righteous certainties that seem to plague these sorts of threads.
      - seanmcdirmid 8y ago
        There is nothing more ironic than a what aboutism meeting an article about what aboutisms.
BatFastard 8y ago
Well Trump appears to have changed his mind very soon after they invested 500 million in a project he was involved with.
- elefanten 8y ago
  Your comment is strictly true despite the downvotes. But, it would help to note that this is simply an observation of potentially unrelated events. Smoke but not fire. What's more disheartening is that the latest round of (still incomplete) information indicates that he's trading back the ZTE action in exchange for the CCP walking back their own agriculture sector trade actions that were initiated during the first volleys in the trade conflict a few months ago. That would be a deeply stupid and un-strategic trade to make. But sadly, it seems to play into the President's domestic political needs. Edit: feel compelled to add / stress the caveat that no outcomes of the trade talks are known in full
yorwba 8y ago
1 hour later and this story is #6 on the front page. I get it, complaining about perceived censorship is fun, but this submission hasn't quite gone full flame war yet, so I think it will stay for a while.
- Lionsion 8y ago
  I think this one will stay, but mainly because the content is an inoculation against the kind of trolling that usually leads to China threads getting buried. I do have an irrational hope that the inoculation will last for more than a single thread though.
rdlecler1 8y ago
Which would suggest that if you wanted to bury a thread you don’t downvote it but fake a flame war and then it’ll quietly go away... may need to figure out how to deal with this problem.

crazy_monkey 8y ago

Lol, the US can get away with anything too like torture, illegal bombing, civilian casualties in a US wars, ... Maybe we should try introspecting too before assuming that others are not like us...

nothrabannosir 8y ago
Are you joking ? How literally can you be the very essence of what this article is about? This, literally this is what that research is describing. Stop changing the bloody subject ! Gah. Edit: this account is a smoking gun. Have a look at the comment history.
- seanmcdirmid 8y ago
  Maybe grandparent was being ironic in their sarcasm?
  - jessaustin 8y ago
    We should always try to see more irony. It is a good antidote to the bullheaded self-righteous certainties that seem to plague these sorts of threads.
    - seanmcdirmid 8y ago
      There is nothing more ironic than a what aboutism meeting an article about what aboutisms.

BatFastard 8y ago

Well Trump appears to have changed his mind very soon after they invested 500 million in a project he was involved with.

elefanten 8y ago
Your comment is strictly true despite the downvotes. But, it would help to note that this is simply an observation of potentially unrelated events. Smoke but not fire. What's more disheartening is that the latest round of (still incomplete) information indicates that he's trading back the ZTE action in exchange for the CCP walking back their own agriculture sector trade actions that were initiated during the first volleys in the trade conflict a few months ago. That would be a deeply stupid and un-strategic trade to make. But sadly, it seems to play into the President's domestic political needs. Edit: feel compelled to add / stress the caveat that no outcomes of the trade talks are known in full

yorwba 8y ago

1 hour later and this story is #6 on the front page. I get it, complaining about perceived censorship is fun, but this submission hasn't quite gone full flame war yet, so I think it will stay for a while.

Lionsion 8y ago
I think this one will stay, but mainly because the content is an inoculation against the kind of trolling that usually leads to China threads getting buried. I do have an irrational hope that the inoculation will last for more than a single thread though.

rdlecler1 8y ago

Which would suggest that if you wanted to bury a thread you don’t downvote it but fake a flame war and then it’ll quietly go away... may need to figure out how to deal with this problem.