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"his belief that everyone working in GDPR enforcement in the EU will not only be totally predictable and reasonable today but also going forward into the indefi

"his belief that everyone working in GDPR enforcement in the EU will not only be totally predictable and reasonable today but also going forward into the indefinite future." EXACTLY! There seems to be an almost cultish devotion to the benevolent institution that it can do no wrong, neither now nor henceforth. I understand WHY people have this belief. The EU is under constant attack at the moment from many sides, and people feel they need to defend it at all costs, even it they are wrong.

DanBC 8y ago
But people aren't defending Europe, they're defending the national data protection regulators (eg ICO) which are not European bodies.
bkor 8y ago
> The EU is under constant attack at the moment from many sides, and people feel they need to defend it at all costs, even it they are wrong. As you mention that "they are wrong" in reference to saying that the regulators aren't to be trusted, could you explain how the Dutch regulator behaved badly? I'm Dutch and have followed what they've been doing over at least 10+ years. I don't think I'm wrong in my assertion, but feel free to point out the details. Also, I'd like to know how often you've followed what the Dutch regulator has been doing. I get the feeling you're not aware of their name.
skummetmaelk 8y ago
> EXACTLY! There seems to be an almost cultish devotion to the benevolent institution that it can do no wrong, neither now nor henceforth. You have to trust someone. Either the vast expanse of companies clearly mishandling your data, or the "benevolent" body which so far at least has a fairly good track record. It's not perfect. It's dangerous to give them too much power because you don't know how they will change in the future. But at the end of the day, I'd rather trust a governmental body which is at least supposed to look out for my interests, rather than a company whose main motivation is to exploit me for every penny I have.
- frockington 8y ago
  A fairly good track record in which its own member states are constantly threatening to leave and one has already successfully left. As an American lokoing in from across an ocean, it does not look like a stable region that I would put trust in
  - acdha 8y ago
    As a fellow American, that sounds like you need to reconsider your news sources. Brexit was driven by propaganda, not some principled opposition to intractable problems. The “EUrocrats gone wild” stories are popular in certain circles but there’s an entire cottage industry debunking them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromyth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromyth
    - dennisgorelik 8y ago
      Both "stay" and "exit" sides were covered pretty well. But if Brussel's bureaucracy behaved more reasonably, UK would not run away from European Union.
      - acdha 8y ago
        Again, that's taking a talking point as a given. Some people cited that or hypothetical cost savings as a justification but the claims tended to be based on urban legends or outright wishful thinking rather than actual analysis.
  - salvar 8y ago
    Which one has successfully left?
    - dennisgorelik 8y ago
      UK left European Union.
      - 8y ago
salvar 8y ago
This seems like a very dishonest assessment. Are all the people who see this differently from you just brainwashed EU cultist who just feel the need to defend wrong things?

DanBC 8y ago

But people aren't defending Europe, they're defending the national data protection regulators (eg ICO) which are not European bodies.

bkor 8y ago

> The EU is under constant attack at the moment from many sides, and people feel they need to defend it at all costs, even it they are wrong. As you mention that "they are wrong" in reference to saying that the regulators aren't to be trusted, could you explain how the Dutch regulator behaved badly? I'm Dutch and have followed what they've been doing over at least 10+ years. I don't think I'm wrong in my assertion, but feel free to point out the details. Also, I'd like to know how often you've followed what the Dutch regulator has been doing. I get the feeling you're not aware of their name.

skummetmaelk 8y ago

> EXACTLY! There seems to be an almost cultish devotion to the benevolent institution that it can do no wrong, neither now nor henceforth. You have to trust someone. Either the vast expanse of companies clearly mishandling your data, or the "benevolent" body which so far at least has a fairly good track record. It's not perfect. It's dangerous to give them too much power because you don't know how they will change in the future. But at the end of the day, I'd rather trust a governmental body which is at least supposed to look out for my interests, rather than a company whose main motivation is to exploit me for every penny I have.

frockington 8y ago
A fairly good track record in which its own member states are constantly threatening to leave and one has already successfully left. As an American lokoing in from across an ocean, it does not look like a stable region that I would put trust in
- acdha 8y ago
  As a fellow American, that sounds like you need to reconsider your news sources. Brexit was driven by propaganda, not some principled opposition to intractable problems. The “EUrocrats gone wild” stories are popular in certain circles but there’s an entire cottage industry debunking them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromyth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromyth
  - dennisgorelik 8y ago
    Both "stay" and "exit" sides were covered pretty well. But if Brussel's bureaucracy behaved more reasonably, UK would not run away from European Union.
    - acdha 8y ago
      Again, that's taking a talking point as a given. Some people cited that or hypothetical cost savings as a justification but the claims tended to be based on urban legends or outright wishful thinking rather than actual analysis.
- salvar 8y ago
  Which one has successfully left?
  - dennisgorelik 8y ago
    UK left European Union.
    - 8y ago

salvar 8y ago

This seems like a very dishonest assessment. Are all the people who see this differently from you just brainwashed EU cultist who just feel the need to defend wrong things?