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> Failed out of engineering= they didnt care I don't even know how to respond to this... my friends didn't fail out from a lack of effort. You also don't know

> Failed out of engineering= they didnt care I don't even know how to respond to this... my friends didn't fail out from a lack of effort. You also don't know this but all of my old friends are Mexican - so you are implicitly saying the reason they didn't succeed is because they are lazy Mexicans. I don't think you intended to take this stance. You likely got tricked with everyone else into believing in social constructionist view that colleges push, everyone is the same unless you can see the differences. Of course they push this because it removes all liability from them for vetting students, and it places blame on failure to the students. Also I did graduate college and found only the math and advanced CS classes useful(3rd year +). Source, to show that these patterns are more than anecdotal: https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_coj.asp https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator_coj.asp

mkirklions 8y ago
Nah, it had nothing to do with your personal racism toward your friends for being Mexican. If you didnt pass math and engineering, you didnt care enough. Your friends treated college like high school or worse. If you did 100% of the homework, read the chapter before class, studied for tests, you wouldnt be failing out of college. At worst case, the classes are hard enough you get a C or D in a class. But that isnt enough to get kicked out of college. Lets be honest here, if you put those kinda hours into engineering school, you can expect to get As and Bs.
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- whataretensors 8y ago
  > Nah, it had nothing to do with your personal racism toward your friends for being Mexican. Dude I'm Mexican. I showed you stats on high dropout rates of other hispanics and you call me racist, meanwhile claiming all of those dropouts are lazy. >If you didnt pass math and engineering, you didnt care enough[...] Lets be honest here, if you put those kinda hours into engineering school, you can expect to get As and Bs More social constructionist falsities that university is based on. It's easy to disprove, assuming you ever met any of the 99.9% of people who aren't good at math.
  - mkirklions 8y ago
    Confirming laziness. Instead of taking responsibility for not studying enough, you blame it on race. Your friends shouldve studied harder. It sounds like you knew what needed to be done.
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    - whataretensors 8y ago
      With all due respect, you are indoctrinated into a culture of lies meant to confuse you into thinking you aren't special, likely to prevent you from negotiating or escaping. We can't expect everyone to be athletes or bodybuilders. Not everything is a test of will.
      - mkirklions 8y ago
        Math is a test of will. As an extension engineering/programming is too.
anchpop 8y ago
> I don't even know how to respond to this... my friends didn't fail out from a lack of effort. You also don't know this but all of my old friends are Mexican - so you are implicitly saying the reason they didn't succeed is because they are lazy Mexicans. I don't think you intended to take this stance. This is exactly the stance the GP intended to take. He said if you failed out of engineering, you're lazy. If you're Mexican, you're Mexican. Therefore if you're Mexican and you failed out of engineering, you're a Mexican who's lazy (phrased differently, a lazy Mexican). You seem to think this is racist, why is that?
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mkirklions 8y ago

Nah, it had nothing to do with your personal racism toward your friends for being Mexican. If you didnt pass math and engineering, you didnt care enough. Your friends treated college like high school or worse. If you did 100% of the homework, read the chapter before class, studied for tests, you wouldnt be failing out of college. At worst case, the classes are hard enough you get a C or D in a class. But that isnt enough to get kicked out of college. Lets be honest here, if you put those kinda hours into engineering school, you can expect to get As and Bs.

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whataretensors 8y ago
> Nah, it had nothing to do with your personal racism toward your friends for being Mexican. Dude I'm Mexican. I showed you stats on high dropout rates of other hispanics and you call me racist, meanwhile claiming all of those dropouts are lazy. >If you didnt pass math and engineering, you didnt care enough[...] Lets be honest here, if you put those kinda hours into engineering school, you can expect to get As and Bs More social constructionist falsities that university is based on. It's easy to disprove, assuming you ever met any of the 99.9% of people who aren't good at math.
- mkirklions 8y ago
  Confirming laziness. Instead of taking responsibility for not studying enough, you blame it on race. Your friends shouldve studied harder. It sounds like you knew what needed to be done.
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  - whataretensors 8y ago
    With all due respect, you are indoctrinated into a culture of lies meant to confuse you into thinking you aren't special, likely to prevent you from negotiating or escaping. We can't expect everyone to be athletes or bodybuilders. Not everything is a test of will.
    - mkirklions 8y ago
      Math is a test of will. As an extension engineering/programming is too.

anchpop 8y ago

> I don't even know how to respond to this... my friends didn't fail out from a lack of effort. You also don't know this but all of my old friends are Mexican - so you are implicitly saying the reason they didn't succeed is because they are lazy Mexicans. I don't think you intended to take this stance. This is exactly the stance the GP intended to take. He said if you failed out of engineering, you're lazy. If you're Mexican, you're Mexican. Therefore if you're Mexican and you failed out of engineering, you're a Mexican who's lazy (phrased differently, a lazy Mexican). You seem to think this is racist, why is that?

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