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>If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month. Calling it now, w
by ikeboy 8y ago
>If you are a subscriber to Google Play Music, good news, you get a YouTube Music Premium membership as part of your subscription each month.
Calling it now, within 5 years there are at least 5 different Google services for streaming music (up from 3 now, Play Music/Youtube/Youtube Music) at least 2 of which are also somehow messaging apps.
It's even plausible, one for VR music videos, one for streaming in your self driving google car?
- viraptor 8y agoYouTube already includes comments and a chat on live streams, so close to a messaging app ;-) Seriously though, YouTube is not a music service, or at least it looks like they don't want it to be, since the interface isn't really great for that case. It also kills phone battery if you use it that way, so YouTube music is an experience upgrade.
- ikeboy 8y agoI mean the top videos are pretty much all music videos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-viewed_YouTube_videos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-viewed_YouTube_vi...
- csydas 8y ago> so YouTube music is an experience upgrade. Based on the press release, it doesn't seem so. It's basically just added a "music only" option, but otherwise it seems to just be a curated section of Youtube that only involves musical content. The same experience you get with vanilla Youtube seems to be applicable. And looking at the pricing, you still get all the battery pitfalls baked into Youtube unless you buy premium. Honestly, it feels more like an attempt to curate Youtube rather than developing a music app. Right now the top video content competes with the published Music content and likely just creates a really weird imbalance in the algorithm toppers. Personally, I think they could have just handled this with some better organization within Youtube, but here we are with a new app.
- kuschku 8y agoActually, YouTube also has a second chat app included.
- freeflight 8y ago> YouTube is not a music service I have to disagree there, it's become my new de-facto music service on my desktop/tablet, at least since I failed to properly move my iTunes database and lost/unorganized large parts of my music collection. The autoplay and mix playlist features are great for discovering new artists, even tho the algorithm can get a bit repetitive and after a while starts populating many lists with the same songs, having the music videos to many songs is also a great added bonus.
- JFFalcon 8y agoMaybe they should have just let people upload audio files with a title card, rather than fragment the service into another app. Would have fixed the bandwidth/battery problem and kept the interface, network, etc.
- freeflight 8y agoLots of music just have a static image anyway, I wonder if YouTube couldn't figure something out to automatically re-encode such videos into audio-only streams, making them less bandwidth intensive. I'm no coder but that doesn't sound like something impossible to do.
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- Raphael 8y agoIf the image is a single keyframe of the video, the remaining frames have an empty delta and shouldn't take much (if any) space.
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- viraptor 8y agoI agree that's how it's used. And also think that this is likely not how Google wants it to be used. There's a music player hiding somewhere in YT, but without a nice interface and wasting amazing amount of global bandwidth for the video stream many people don't care about. (but turn up the quality to get a better audio stream) It's not a music service - it's a music video service with some music piggybacking on top in a silly way.
- SllX 8y agoWell we're at 4 or 4.5 now. 1. YouTube 1.5 YT Music (basically a music-oriented front-end to YouTube) 2. Google Play Music All-Access 3. YouTube Music Premium (from the article) 4. (or 3.5) VEVO I particularly enjoyed this quote: > The days of jumping back and forth between multiple music apps and YouTube are over. As the above list shows, this is demonstrably false. Given that YouTube Red (or YouTube Premium as they'll soon be rebranding it as) is also part of this package, Google Play Music All-Access is beginning to resemble something of an AV-oriented Prime membership. Lots of benefits, not a lot of focus, but hey, maybe they'll buy up PornHub and add PornHub subscriptions to the stack whether you want it or not, just to make your recurring monthly payments a bit stickier.
- fluxsauce 8y ago> maybe they'll buy up PornHub and add PornHub subscriptions to the stack whether you want it or not, just to make your recurring monthly payments a bit stickier Purely from a payment processing point of view, unless Google wants to fight Visa, MasterCard and other institutions this will never happen. There are a lot of restrictions around content and payment processors that you would assume is covered by freedom of speech that in a practical sense isn't.
- Cthulhu_ 8y agoFreedom of speech does not cover corporations, I really don't get why that is still being brought up. Credit card companies don't want to be held responsible if your CC payment is being used for the sexual exploitation of people. They don't want to be associated with revenge porn, etc. I'm sure there's a puritan reasoning in there too somewhere, but TBF I doubt that's the primary reason given how big the porn market would be for companies like that.
- corobo 8y agoI imagine that's a part of it but also the risk of chargeback is greater with adult content. People get buyers remorse at the exact moment you think they would and reverse the charge Tried to start a site that wasn't for but did allow adult content and every payment processor closed their shutters on us
- iforgotpassword 8y agoWell, they're in tough competition with the chat team. They still got some work to do to end up with at least as many music streaming services as google has messaging services/apps.
- pasbesoin 8y agoSaw your comment after my post. Exactly. And I guess, given the context, two similar comments can be tolerated. ;-)
- pasbesoin 8y agoThey're just trying to catch up with Chat... err, [ha, I was going to mention, but I can't even remember the name of the most recent revision of Google IM-thingee] P.S. Sometimes, people break out the humor for good reason. I mean, really?
- oblio 8y agoGoogle operates under the assumption that they're making a "free market": they have a ton of services, some competing directly, and in the end a winner emerges and snuffs everyone else out. I guess someone should tell them about the paradox of choice, branch dilution and the fact that despite Google being big, they're not an entire market unto themselves. Google: make 1 big, single, integrated service and when a startup supplants you in your selected market, just buy them for $15 billion.
- chatmasta 8y agoI’ve heard this meme repeated before, but is there any example of when it actually worked for them? Is there a single google product that was originally one of many internally and is now the market leader? I can only think of counter examples... everywhere google spreads too thin they lose market share to competitors. Messaging is the prime example.
- hknd 8y agoThey will probably deprecate the old ones and merge everything in youtube (which would make sense).