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You said: > Sure life expectancy was low, but that’s mainly because people died young ... If you factor out all the child deaths, the average life expects wasn

You said: > Sure life expectancy was low, but that’s mainly because people died young ... If you factor out all the child deaths, the average life expects wasn’t that much lower for a Knights Templar than it is for you Where literally the second damn line of the article: > For even wealthy landholding males, average life expectancy was about 31 years, rising to 48 years for those who made it to their twenties.

bryanrasmussen 8y ago
what was the median life expectancy? on edit: they said factor out all the early childhood deaths - which probably aren't factored out for 'average' life expectancy.
- yorwba 8y ago
  If you condition the average on reaching at least the age of twenty, that does factor out childhood deaths.
  - bryanrasmussen 8y ago
    oops - reading fail.
  - sitkack 8y ago
    Right, which puts the average at 48. A perfect time for wisdom teeth to take you out. The statistical language people use about talking about lifespan in before-times is rotten! That whole paragraph lays it out in its mathematical glory. > For even wealthy landholding males, average life expectancy was about 31 years, rising to 48 years for those who made it to their twenties. Even for wealthy families infant mortality was a problem. The AVERAGE is always the wrong metric!
    - AstralStorm 8y ago
      This is why they provided a Windsorized average too. (of people who lived till 20s)
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darkerside 8y ago
The cited study appears to be based on a review of public records of English high society, which is a very limited perspective on the question. https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1467-985X.00261 https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1467-98...
- mcguire 8y ago
  I hate humanities publishing. https://www.academia.edu/24376948/Estimation_of_life_expectancy_in_the_Middle_Ages https://www.academia.edu/24376948/Estimation_of_life_expecta... Tl;dr: Life expectancy at 25: ~50 in 1300-1350ish, lower during the plague.

bryanrasmussen 8y ago

what was the median life expectancy? on edit: they said factor out all the early childhood deaths - which probably aren't factored out for 'average' life expectancy.

yorwba 8y ago
If you condition the average on reaching at least the age of twenty, that does factor out childhood deaths.
- bryanrasmussen 8y ago
  oops - reading fail.
- sitkack 8y ago
  Right, which puts the average at 48. A perfect time for wisdom teeth to take you out. The statistical language people use about talking about lifespan in before-times is rotten! That whole paragraph lays it out in its mathematical glory. > For even wealthy landholding males, average life expectancy was about 31 years, rising to 48 years for those who made it to their twenties. Even for wealthy families infant mortality was a problem. The AVERAGE is always the wrong metric!
  - AstralStorm 8y ago
    This is why they provided a Windsorized average too. (of people who lived till 20s)

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darkerside 8y ago

The cited study appears to be based on a review of public records of English high society, which is a very limited perspective on the question. https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1467-985X.00261 https://rss.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1467-98...

mcguire 8y ago
I hate humanities publishing. https://www.academia.edu/24376948/Estimation_of_life_expectancy_in_the_Middle_Ages https://www.academia.edu/24376948/Estimation_of_life_expecta... Tl;dr: Life expectancy at 25: ~50 in 1300-1350ish, lower during the plague.