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If you check out the show on Rotten Tomatos it has a tomato rating of 90% with an average audience score of 95%. That seems really high to then cancel the show
by laurencei 8y ago
If you check out the show on Rotten Tomatos it has a tomato rating of 90% with an average audience score of 95%.
That seems really high to then cancel the show?
I'm guessing the problem is it is highly loved by a small group of individuals? But given Sci-Fi in general is a wide enough demographic for many other shows - it seems strange this is not drawing in the ratings?
[1] https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_expanse/ https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/the_expanse/
- Hendrikto 8y agoHave you watched it? It’s not bad... but not really good either. Much better shows were cancelled in the past.
- laurencei 8y agoYes - personally I like it. But I'm trying to be objective and note the lack of correlation between a shows percevied quality and how that does/not translate into ratings.
- wink 8y agoI was missing the "wow, awesome!" effect. Only watched S1 so far and it was.. nice. solid. interesting. But it didn't spark joy or made me a fan. (Killjoys did, for example.)
- TeMPOraL 8y agoS2 has more "wow, awesome" than S1, and then the few S3 episodes that aired so far beat the crap out of S2. VFX work got better and better as the show progressed.
- laumars 8y agoEveryone is different but S1 of The Expanse gave me more joy than any other show I've watched in a long time. While S1 did have its fair share of space battles, it was so nice watching something that wasn't all guns and fist fights and did so without having to resort to hours of dull pseudo-emotional monologues and barely relevant flashbacks. Usually that kind of highbrow writing is reserved for "who done it" style crime dramas. It was refreshing to watch that same formula applied to the sci-fi genre given how cheesy or needlessly "emo" the genre has been of late.
- sigi45 8y agoLike? I really like the show. It is quite dense.
- kochthesecond 8y agoI watched the first season a few years ago. It is good, solid, hard sci-fi. But like said below, it didn't 'wow' me. Considering the current lack of good sci-fi series, I really appreciated the show.
- baxtr 8y agoYeah, I stopped watching once the paranormal stuff started. Why can’t we have just realistic SciFi?
- nootropicat 8y agoWhat paranormal stuff? Are you calling aliens paranormal?
- baxtr 8y agoI was referring to the protomolcule stuff, clearly to explainable by our current understanding of science Citing Wikipedia: Paranormal events are phenomena described in popular culture, folk, and other non-scientific bodies of knowledge, whose existence within these contexts is described to lie beyond normal experience or scientific explanation.
- laumars 8y agoIn that case 99% of sci-fi would be classed as "paranormal". Be it warp drives, replicators, holodecks, teleporters, deep space communication platforms, shapeshifting lifeforms / changelings (DS9), ascended lifeforms (SG1) / the Q (TNG), aliens that drink lifeforce (Atlantis), artificial lifeforms, cold fusion bombs / red matter (or pretty much anything from those shitty Star Trek reboots). And lets not forget time travel. I think it's also worth remembering that the "fi" part of "sci-fi" actually stands for "fiction" and not "factual information" :P
- baxtr 8y agoTrue :-) I just liked that about the expanse that everything else was really realistic. Achievable by humans within the next couple of hundred years
- aaron695 8y agoYou are right in that the Expanse is far far from Hard SciFi, but it's probably in the top 1% since people really don't get FTL is just a plan nut job level idea. Protomolcule does go nutty (FTL, disrespecting inertia, gravity and stuff)but I didn't mind personally, I also like magic shows. But the human stuff is not bad, which is why a lot of people love it. There's a huge section of it that kinda has some respect for science. But it's not Paranormal IMO because everyone can see it happening, hence it's normal (In this universe) I would not say a movie where ghosts are everywhere in society and everyone sees them a paranormal movie.
- ashelmire 8y agoNo show is safe in a world where Firefly was canceled after one season.
- mynewtb 8y agoThank s/god/Jane, that Firefly had been saved from being dragged out into a multi season, audience engagement money fest.
- fastball 8y agoI love Firefly, and was really bummed when it was canceled. But Firefly is a lovable camp-fest. The Expanse is better.
- bigtunacan 8y agoI love The Expanse it's a great story and decent acting, but Firefly had more entertainment value and appeals to a larger audience.
- asdf1234tx 8y agoIt's well known that Fox really pounded on Whedon to make the show lighter and funnier. The first episode has minimal camp, as does the film. The other episodes vary. You have to admit, compared to the camp of the 70s and 80s, Whedon's camp is quite nice.
- maxerickson 8y agoThey are more focused on cost and revenue than reviews and ratings. Especially given the limited piece of the rights they have.
- jessaustin 8y agoTheir original decision to only buy the particular rights they bought was also focused on cost. Maybe not so much on revenue... Syfy specializes in lcd barely-watchable crap. They get nervous when purchasing shows outside their specialty.
- maxerickson 8y agoThat's because costs escalate quickly. Which is sort of my point, people focus on how shows are good and have decent ratings and so on, but that ignores the commercial reality that Syfy exists in, where an expensive show better have stellar ratings to justify producing it instead of cheap schlock.
- TeMPOraL 8y agoIt seems mostly like SyFy not getting much money, since they profited off life viewers, while most people stream the show.
- rubyfan 8y agoReach varies around 1 million give or take a few hundred thousand depending on the season. That’s similar to other ScyFy shows but from what I read there’s some dispute over cost and rights that they couldn’t get over. Hopefully Netflix picks it up.